With the tranny xmember, It still didnt lay, Its a Yota the engine cradle hangs too low it wont lay out without a Z. Bad part is, I did the crossmember for nothing, cause Im building a full stock floor frame now, As far as spindles. No I dont have drop spindles, That would just take away from my lift and still wouldnt lay out cause the engle cradle is still lower then the frame. If your close dont drop the money on spindles, Just Z it. And yes those are Spitfires. I traded my 20s for them, They have some pitting in the inside of them. I still want Centerline Smoothies