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  1. nvrenufedge

    nvrenufedge Grand Toyotaholic

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    The only thing I hate about video's of systems is the bass sounds like crap. But I do have a couple. :D

    My set-up:
    Alpine IVA-W200 head unit
    Rockford P400-2 amp for components
    Rockford P500-1 amp for subs
    JL XR650-CSi components
    JL 10W3v2-D4 subs
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    Btw, my door panels are not done yet.
     
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    sick setup..primus sucks!!!!
     
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    primus sucks ^ ur crazy brah .
     
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    Les Claypool- eccentric bassist or eccentric percussionist? You make the call.

    That interior is looking sweet regardless of anybody's thoughts on primus
     
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  5. nvrenufedge

    nvrenufedge Grand Toyotaholic

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    Thanks guys! Eventually the dash and upper door panels will be covered in grey tweed and the seats will be recovered in grey and blue.
     
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    ^ very sweet man . wish mine looked that good .:waytogo:........... wish my truck had that factory clock too .
     
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  7. nvrenufedge

    nvrenufedge Grand Toyotaholic

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    Actually I added the clock. Found it in one at a junk yard. The wiring is already there.
     
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  8. Litneon

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    I run one Eclipse 88100. Older 10 inch sub that can handle the 1000w Jonah Lomu series Fusion amp that's pushing it. It's in a one cubic foot sealed enclosure.

    Let's get some ideas straight though:
    1. Brands don't mean crap. Everyone makes different stuff and it can all give you a headache. Higher cost is not always louder.
    2. The output of the driver is mostly a factor of it's efficiency, the power you put to it, and the enclosure.
    3. "Tight" bass is not a product of the sub/amp setup. Tight bass is a combination of the low end and the mids and highs. If you have way more sub than mids and highs, it will sound muddy. There has to be balance.

    So, find something in your budget and before you buy, post up the specs and model numbers of what you like and there are a few of us that can tell you exactly how loud you can expect to be. I use BassBox Pro. Been doing installs for a while now and am willing to help.

    Check out www.the12volt.com

    Great forums and lots of info.
     
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    ^ I would love to hear this one! Those eclipse woofers are BA. +1 on the infinity perfect woofers mentioned earlier. I have a perfect 12 in my subaru, it's powered by a bridged JL 300/4. I love the set up, but I'm planning on doing something crazy in the 89.
     
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    The Kicker comp 12" i had in my ex cab hit real fckin nice. n that was only ~150 watts.

    I had a Alpine Type R 12" and wowzers.
     
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    I dunno if i completely agree with you on #3. In my understanding tight bass is controlled mostly through box design and tuning. If you like tight bass like from a kick drum in rock music you would go with a sealed box instead of ported due to better response and a flatter overall slope of the box.
     
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    yes and no, i would do a ported box if you had the space for it, you can still get great response, you just have to build the box right. find out what the specs are for the sub and then tune the box from there. for rock n stuff i would reccomend a tuning around 36-38hz depending on what he's running and box setup.

    i got 2 tc sounds 8's in a 1.8 cf3 box tuned to 38hz that sounds like 2 12's and sounds great when i listen to metal.

    plus they are for sale too :)

    sealed boxes are good if you just dont have the space to fit anything, if he has an extra cab my box fits perfect right behind the drivers seat and will hammer your brains out :clapping:
     
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    Oh Tc sounds make great subs. Only junk part is shipping them to hawaii.

    And for me, i like to tune my boxes low. My current box is 7cubes tuned to 32. Nothing like driving by cars in traffic and seeing their windows flex before i even pass. Hahahahahaha
     
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    ya i wish i had the space for something like that. 2 15's in 7-8 cf3 on a 30hz tune would be the sex :)
     
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    DAMN ! thats badass man !
     
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  16. nvrenufedge

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    Is that 1.8 per sub or for the whole box. Cause thats HUGE for an 8" (if it is per sub). My JL 10W3v2's are in a 1.25 sq ft(per sub) slot ported box tuned at 40 hz. It sounds great with everything.
     
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    no total box is 1.8 cf3. now these are monster subs, same magnet they put on the 10, 12 and 15 :) they handle 1000 rms each :)

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    normal sized bic lighter next to it to show size :) lil monsters
     
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  18. Litneon

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    Obviously, it would depend on your definition of the word "tight". If you've ever listened to the sub only with no mids and highs, it sounds "muddy". "Tight" is generally the term that refers to the opposite of muddy.

    The output frequency graph can be flat or peaked @ a given frequency, but if the higher frequencies aren't there in proper proportion, it will sound muddy.

    If I want to tune for rock, I will generally tune a ported box to etween 40 and 45 Hz. The lowest frequency that a 4 string bass guitar will play is approx 40 Hz. and the kick will sound nice and punchy at the same tuning, so tuning lower will help round out other types of music, but can waste some db if you want it to be as loud as possible.
     
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    You would also have to define "better response". A sealed box will almost always give you a flatter response curve, but not as much SPL. So if better response is louder, then a ported box is almost always better.
    But on the flip side, if the better response is a flatter curve, then yes, the sealed enclosure is the way to go.

    There are so many variations in tuning capabilities for any given driver, that it is almost impossible to make any concrete statements about how a speaker sounds, which is why I said that every company makes a decent driver. It all depends on how much time you take to design the enclosure. 9 times out of 10 I can get an additional 3 to 6 db out of a driver enclosure combo, over the "recommended" eclosure specs from the manufacturer. (Mind you, this is at a specific frequency range, not over the whole response curve.)
     
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    Is that a sundown 8? The SA?
    And yeah its true, every sub can sound good. Just build for yourself. And if you dont like it then rip it apart and then build again. Thats what i do. And i dont listen to rock music, was just using it as a example.
     
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