https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtTHWfP2XcY Yeah, its an old video, but I thought it was funny and that everyone might get a chuckle out of it. Warning: Swearing at the start, so if you are at work, you may want to mute it.
I actually saw one of these yesterday. He had a fully painted car with wheels that tucked in just like these. Upon closer inspection I saw that his rear lip was damaged probably from hitting a bump in the road but it was bondo'ed over (poorly) and painted over. You could still see the pores in the bondo.
CAMBER!!! haha I love it! and I love how they dare to be different. Not my style but I do like a bit of 'poke' 1 deg of camber.. hum sexy! I love haters like the guy in the video.. How would the car scene be if we were all doing the same thing?
There is a huge difference between doing something to be different than everyone else and doing something dangerous and making yourself look stupid.
Dare to be different but don't get butt hurt when people make fun of what you're doing. 1* is nothing, most of the stupidity in that video was 15* and over.
Not to mention, 1* is not very noticeable either, a buddies car is set for track with 1.5-2* and you really have to look to even notice..
No, there isn't. That's your opinion. How is it dangerous? And I don't buy that the "reduced traction" is dangerous. There are probably tons of people that think that a bagged vehicle is "dangerous", and it is if you aren't responsible about it. If a cambered car drives straight down the road and isn't prone to randomly veering into the oncoming lane of traffic, then with the responsibility of making sure you aren't going to have a blowout from uneven tire wear, do what you will. Sure, I don't think it looks that great, but I don't think a lot of modifications look good.
What? http://youtu.be/29g386hXwyI Opinion or not reducing the contact patch decreases the vehicles performance to negligible levels. Running stretched tires and crazy camber started as a way to get low powered cars to drift.
Really? How do you not buy into ''reduced traction is dangerous"? Do you not believe in physics? If that wasn't 100% true, tires would not have treads and groves for water to escape and all tires would be made out of the same rubber compound. Changing the suspension geometry and vehicle tracking as much as the idiots in that video did will absolutely make a vehicle unpredictable and harder to control. Now combine that with the sketchy stretched tires that they also run on the sidewalls and they are an wreck waiting to happen.
C'mon, really? First, while they are lighter, motorcycles have a smaller contact patch, and half as many. I didn't say that reduced traction is safe, but if it's being done by someone who is aware of the changes they've made, then it can be driven safely. You rarely use all the traction you "think" that you have on your setups anyway. And as far as: First off I said "IF". So that doesn't cover a large portion of the whacked out cars in that video. But IF I cruise low, then my fronts are cambered (most bagged vehicles are). I even run a slight stretch, but I don't hear you screaming at me about safety. White Trash, there's no doubt in my mind that that wreck in the video was caused solely by the fact that the car had a bit of camber. I'm convinced now. And while I don't know the origin of the crazy camber, the stretched tires supposedly originated in the European countries where it was illegal to change tire sizes from stock, so to fit wider "custom" wheels, they stretched the legal sizes. And if you look at the recommended wheel widths for any given tire, even the manufacturer will allow some stretch. Mine are well within specs.
I have no problem with a bit of stretch at all. I actually prefer it in some cases. I've ran 195/50, 205/50 and my new race front tires are 195/55's all have been on 15x8's so they weren't ran crazy stretched but they all filled the wheel wells exactly as intended and also cleared the lip. As for the extreme camber there is no reason to do it other than to diminish performance. There was a "Hellaflush" miata running last Sunday. Talk about a ****show. Much over partial throttled would blow the back tires off of it since he was riding on just a few inches of rubber per side. I'm sure it was a fun ride since he drifted every corner he managed to make it to.
Umm yeah. Because of them being smaller and lighter they don't need a big contact patch like a 4 wheel vehicle that weighs 5 times as much. You're correct, you didn't say those exact words. What you did say is that you don't buy that the reduced traction is dangerous. Which is pretty much saying thats its not safe. So because its not all used all the time, that means its not all needed, and can then be reduced to what is only needed at one given time? Running the amount of camber that occurs when something is bagged and driving low is a much different thing than what the rahtards in that video are doing which is where this whole thing started. Running that amount of stretch on your tires doesn't even come close to what some people do and think is ok.
Well, I stand by my previous statements. I don't think it's as dangerous as you claim. Wild camber is done for a completely different reason than making the car unsafe, I mean, that doesn't even make sense. How many mods ARE done BECAUSE they make something unsafe? Traction isn't only a factor of contact patch size. It's based on both size and distributed weight, which can possibly negate any detriments to size with the increase in size to weight ratio. My phone keyboard is tiny, so I'm out for now....
Um... When I posted it, It was just meant to be a silly video to make people laugh a bit. I understand the arguments for and against modding cars, but come on guys... See the humor in life. I'd try and smooth things over by posting a This Old House re-run, but I'd most likely start an argument about building code violations and earthquake safety.
