Manual trans/22re questions...

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  1. Litneon

    Litneon Super Moderator Staff Member

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    So, doing a bit of research. I need to know what 5 speeds will bolt up to a 22re, either with a bell housing swap or just straight up.

    If I can't find some answers about my auto soon, I may be swapping it out for a manual.

    If anyone has anything for sale or sitting around, I might be buying.
     
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    Any W series 4 or 5 speed pre 1995 1/2 will bolt up with zero mods as will any R (R150f used behind the V6 and R154f that came behind M and JZ applications) if you use the bellhousing from a 22ret from a 4x4 toyota.

    You can use a W59 from a tacoma if you use the bellhousing from a W45, 55, 56 etc.



    Personally I'd look for a W55 which is the generic 5 speed used all efi trucks. My favorite is the W58 used in early supras. You have to swap the bellhousing from an M series to a W series but other than that it's a bolt together deal. The W58 has a different input ratio for the counter shaft so 1,2,3 and 5th gears are all 8% higher. It's a strong gear box too, I beat the everloving crap out of mine on the daily with nary a whimper. :D



    If you weren't living on the contiguous US's penis opposite of my location I'd make you a stupid deal on all the parts to do the swap other than the trans itself.
     
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    Litneon Super Moderator Staff Member

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    You said penis. Uuh huh-huh.


    I like stupid deals.
     
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    For real, that is about as far away of a deal as can be made.

    And he summed it up, basically any 75-95 2wd truck or 75-85 celica if you get the bellhousing to match.
     
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    I've run the older steel cased 50 and 52 and have no complaints vs the newer 55. Few extra lbs, and I've only broke one. So don't disregard one of those if you find a deal, you can always change it later if you find something better.
     
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    Haha. Thanks guys. I'll start looking. Kinda hoping not to have to do the swap, but I want the pars around just in case. I really don't have any complaints with the auto, but I've owned 5 or 6 manuals, and there are things to love about picking your gear.
     
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    Is there a number on the casting to tell what series/type the trans is? Those were a lot of numbers you threw out there White Trash. Ive gone thru several trans, but never really got into specs, other than 4 or 5 speed.
     
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    I am liking this idea
     
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    Yeah, I'm Ok with the idea if it comes to it. But, that being said, I found a friend of a friend today who owns a trans shop and is willing to spend some time with me trying to find out what mods can be done on the A43D auto. It seems that it could be fairly capable with a bit of tweaking, and who knows, maybe we'll start a new trend in racing pickups...

    But, if not, a manual will also work.
     
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    No real casting numbers or anything but this is a decent pictorial guide to identifying them.
     
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    Thanks for the reply, great website.
    Do you know of any other sites like this one, that may sell the other shift forks beside the 1st-2nd gear shift fork.
     
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    Call the shop on a friday and ask for Marlin himself. He's only allowed to talk on the phone on fridays so he can build trannies the rest of the time.
     
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    drag truck?


    do a 6 speed and take it out of mk4 supra that's what ya should do
     
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    I have a SC300 early W58 as far as I know. I'm using a W4x bellhousing (didn't know it was a Wxx 4spd bellhousing but it lined up just fine).

    then I'm using 22RE manual stuff in terms of clutch and flywheel. Got my flywheel bolts from marlin crawler.
    Using a stainless steel braided line from master to slave.
    Makes it super easy to bleed the clutch alone, just detach slave from bellhousing and cycle it when you route it all the way back up to the master, all by hand.
     
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    I'd find the correct w5x manual mount and truck crossmember manual mount too.
     
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    That's one of the complications of me switching to a manual. I already have a custom trans crossmember that will need modified once again.

    And no, no drag truck right now. Heck, it's still my daily. I really just want my auto to shift firmer so I don't build too much heat or wear out the clutch packs too quickly.

    On the flip side though, has anyone heard of a stall converter for these A43d's?
     
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    the A43D is a fairly strong transmission for an auto and is used in TONS of different vehicles, including volvo, some fords, nissan, lexus, and forget what else.

    there IS a valve body kit sold by a company to change the shift points and aggressiveness of your shifts in the transmission. i dont exactly remember who makes it but call up LCE and ask them, they use this transmission along with one of their turbo 2rz trucks and have it perform fairly nice. youtube also has some info on these kits.

    this is true, i used this method of s.s. line with my corolla when i swapped the 5 speed in. line cost me about 100 bucks and i actually got a spare one since i thought i was gonna do the swap on my other buddys car but sold it before he got any more parts.... if anyone needs one, lmk. its never been used!

    hoestly, i dont think you will need to modify your xmember much at all if any in order to swap in the trans... dont quote me but, i think the only difference in the mounting method was all done in the transmission mount itself, no tthe xmember. :waytogo:
     
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    The cross member itself should be the same. It's just the mount that bolts to the cross member that'll need to be modified if anything.

    If i didn't have access to a factory hard line I'd go with a stainless braided line from speedwaymotors.com with the correct adapters on each end to attach directly to the master & slave. Under $40 shipped to your door. :D
     

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