Bad MPG's, I think

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  1. Hinudie

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    '87 Toyota Pickup 22r auto 294,000 miles - Completely stock

    I am definitely not a lead foot...... maybe floored it twice since I've owned it. Mostly city driving with 25% highway. I fill up when it hits E and I usually get between 200-220 a tank. I did the math and it comes out to like 16 mpgs......... thats bad! I just had a tune up done about a month or two ago. Could it be the carb? This is what my carb looks like when the truck is off...... Normal?
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    Thanks guys and gals!
    Ronnie
     
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    And that was after driving it for about 30 minutes....
     
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    That's normal choke plate doesn't set till it receives 12volts from the ignition .then slowly opens as the it gets warmer via rotating on a choke cam lobe then try's to reset itself as much as possible upon cool down tapping the gas when the truck is cold will close it < resets the choke cam lobe . As far as miles per gallon I think that's pretty good 295k on ethonal based gas on a carbed motor some guys get better mpg city driving wil eat up some gas tho . I'm proably 9to 14 city highway forget about it

    If the truck is fully warm and that plate is not moving all the way u may want to check for binding or a fully functioning choke
     
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    Your tank should be a 12.5 gal unit, that puts you around 18 MPG ,about right for your engine running a carb!

    The EFI engines get around 23-28 with a manual 5 speed!:cool:
     
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    when i had my 87 i ran to SD and back w one tank...i get around 21-24...all i did is reg tune up set my timing to 8 i think....your probably burning gas....
     
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    and I'm assuming stock tire height, too?
     
  7. Hinudie

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    cinNAMmon - Yup! 195/75/14's.....

    I think a lot if not all my engine has been rebuilt, or VERY well taken care of but I'm pretty sure the carb is original....... I'm thinking a nice Weber 32/36 could help?

    I'm not looking for speed out of my pickup, just a little cruiser...... I do want a little more power to climb hills better, my plans are as follows and let me know if I should add something, subtract or keep as is.....

    Weber 32/36
    Header, stock cat and 2 1/4 cat back
    Slight cam to help with the mid range/top end power
    Electric Fan (previous owner locked the stock fan so it's constantly spinning - good or bad for city/hwy driving?)

    That's all I was thinking to do..... A little more kick for those hills. What do you guys think?

    Ronnie
     
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    any idea what rear end gearing you got?
     
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    That locked fan will hurt mpg a little. And if u want more power but not loose mpgs. I would let her breath better. And if tuned right a 32/36 can give you more power.
     
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    Yea the fan will hurt a little any parasitic drag on the motor will reduce its efficieny 32/36 will be a great replacement carb just take time to set it up properly . Cams if large enough will reduce mpg so f you keep it small or mild you won't see a bad drop in mpg but is worth the upgrade
     
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    Awesome! So if you were me which upgrades would you do first? I plan to do one at a time and I want to do it right!

    Thanks.
     
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    Well if carb is in good working order ..and is not giving you problems .I'd do a electric fan mod either a junkyard electric fan or a slim 12-16 inch aftermarket fan .on a auto on harness with manual override available at jegs.com or summit .com that will free up some space and mpg

    Second the carb .< kinda expensive ..read up on weber carbs and there tunning procedures to get familiar with them and what you might be up against when switching to a 32/36 .

    Cam most labor intensive and evolves removing the head bolts and a I always no matter what put a new head gasket on when head bolts are removed ..

    Mpg truck ..good rotor and cap new wires and plugs clean fuel filter properly adjust valve lash and a E -fan . ..if your in Cali and have emissions .be carful of removing certain items smog items
     
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    Where I live the auto 22R/22RE's only got about 17 in town, but my old 22R 4-Speed pulls about 25! The 4WD's fuel injected or not get about 13.
     

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