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  1. Lilnado

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    i grabbed the wrong key and it broke in the ignition any ideas how to get the peice out
     
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    Although I've never had this happen to me, I have had the correct key get stuck in there.

    Spray a little brake cleaner on a Q-tip and clean just the top of the key where it has broken off.

    Once that's cleaned off, just a touch of JB WELD on both ends of the broken key and carefully/slowly reattach them. BE VERY VERY CAREFUL not to use too much JB WELD to where it's getting all over the place.

    Use a toothpick to apply it. Use just enough and only what you can control.

    Let dry overnight.

    When you wake up, squirt some basic motor oil into the key cylinder. Be patient. Let the oil drip onto the pins that are inside, so you know they are nice and loose.

    Proceed to slowly pull the key straight out.
     
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    ^ thats a great idea.. I had my tumbler lock up on me once and its quite the PITA to change out.

    If you cant get it out, you have to remove the lower dash panel, drill/fight/remove the 2 security bolts on the steering column with no bolt heads and remove the steering lock/ ignition tumbler assembly. Stick that bitch in the vice, drill out the retaining pin for your tumbler and insert the new one... a new tumbler is $135 at the dealer.. and the break away security bolts are roughly $15 and a dealer only thing I believe.
     
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    we have a 90 and a 92 i tried starting the 90 with 92 key thats what happend but i cant see the other part of the key :brickknock: i got the dash out and have the right socket to get the ignition switch out so maybe ill be able to slide it out some how
     
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    I was thinking superglue and toothpick lolol
     
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    tried the super glue with the key but nope
     
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    I had a keysmith do it last time but my toyota original key broke. he only charged me 20 bucks. shoot for that price you can probably buy a new ignition key set.
     
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    were in the process of jiggling it out by holding the pin but havin some issues
     
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    If you can't see the other end of the key, you could still apply the JB WELD on the one end that you have in your hand.

    Again, just enough JB Weld to where it isn't dripping. When applying it just try and keep it all on just the spine of the broken ridges. It isn't going to take a whole lot to keep the key together, strong enough to handle the force it will take to pull it out. Hence the importance of lubing the cylinder.

    You just have to be surgically careful when re-inserting it. Once it's in, hold it for a few minutes to let it cure...let go...then let it sit overnight.
     
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    try and find the strongest magnet they have at a hardware store. latch it on to the side of the key entry point and tap on the ignition housing and pull it out........
     
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    about that its copper
     
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    Another option....(doityourself.com)


    You're just leaving the house and you turn to lock the door, or you're running late and jump into your car and twist the key. All that turns is the head of the key in your fingers and the shaft is stuck in the lock. Now what? Call a locksmith and figure on a couple of hundred dollars for a service call? Phone a tow truck to take your car to the dealer, where you'll probably be looking at a few hundred dollars to get your ignition working again? You just might have another option; with patience and some contrived tools, you may be able to get that broken key shaft out of the lock yourself.

    What kind of tools you can use:

    * A piece of a coping saw blade
    * A piece of a jigsaw blade
    * Small hacksaw blade
    * Dental pick
    * Spray lock lubricant, WD-40 or even Pam cooking spray
    * Needle nose pliers
    * Eyebrow tweezers
    * Nail clippers


    Getting your key out of the lock

    The concept is quite simple. First you want to get a strong, thin piece of metal in beside your key shaft then pull it back out of the lock. Once you've got the end sticking out, grab the protruding piece of the key and pull it out the rest of the way. The piece of a coping saw blade (or other thin saw blade) is good for getting the key started, since the teeth on a saw blade all point in one direction and they'll grab the key shaft.


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    Start by giving the keyway (lock) a quick spray of lubricant to make it as easy as possible for the key shaft to slide out. Now insert the piece of saw blade into the keyway (making sure the teeth on the blade are pointing towards you, i.e. back out of the lock).
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    Make sure you slide the saw blade in along beside the grooved edge of your key, not the smooth edge. (Take a look at a key right now. There are probably some grooves running the length of the shaft and some teeth sticking up. On one side of the teeth the key shaft is thinner or cut back - you want to slide your saw blade in along this area. Car keys that can be inserted either side up also have a thin side on each edge of the key.
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    Grab onto the key shaft by twisting your saw blade a little. When it gets a grip, try to slide the shaft out of the lock.
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    Once you've got a bit of the key shaft protruding from the lock, use needle nose pliers, tweezers or even a set of nail clippers to grab on to the shaft and pull it all the way out.
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    If the broken key shaft won't budge, the lock may not be in a "neutral" position. The tumblers inside the lock are still holding onto the key shaft. If the lock isn't in a neutral position, you can probably get it aligned by turning it with your saw blade in the lock.
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    Once you get the broken piece out of the lock, don't just throw it away. A locksmith can usually make a new key from the two pieces of the old key.
     
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    thanks for the help ill try these we got the stearing unlocked and the plastic switch so key is a flat head :looney: so its drivable but i dont wanna keep it like that
     
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    is there any way to turn it to acc without breaking it
     

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