http://www.suicidedoors.com/4-link-kits/thorbecke-brothers/super-lift-triangulated-4-link-kit

What do you guys think about this kit? I emailed www.SuicideDoors.com a few days ago asking about a heavy duty four link kit for a cantilever set up. I was concerned that a lot of the universal kits I have seen seemed a little too light duty as far as the tube size on the lower links for a cantilever set up and this was his suggestion. It looks pretty damn good to me. I am seriously thinking about ordering it up.

 

I think so too. Thanks for the reply. I'm surprised not to have gotten more feedback on this. Anyone here installed this kit before or one like it? Also does anyone have any suggestions for alternative choices or anything? Any pros or cons to running this kit? Thanks.

 

as a fabricator i wouldn't spend the money on it. you can buy the bushings and what not and fabricate it for about half the cost. obviously it will take more time, but thats the fun of building the truck.

if someone didn't have the time or skill to do it i would say buy it. i was looking at it as well for the hilux, then priced the parts to fab one myself and decided to go that route. i recommend www.aircraftspruce.com for chromemoly tubing.

 

Thanks! I was hoping for some feedback along these lines. What about a good supplier for the bushings and weld in threaded bungs for the links? Also what about johnny joints on a four link? I have heard they are not quite forgiving enough and make for a rough ride compared to poly bushings, but I would like to hear other opinions.

 

i bought my bushings from suicidedoors. for bung (tube adapters) i use www.ballisticfabrication.com although i live a short drive from them so i don't have to ship anything.

i think the johnny joints are more for offroad and look like overkill on a mini.

 

Chromemoly tubing? Is that better for a four link than regular DOM tubing? I haven't really heard much about it since back in the days of BMX. It seems a lot more expensive than regular DOM.

 

Ive seen this kit installed/used first hand...this is my buddies Nissan 720 with that same kit & as you can see it gets a lot of lift. This was on his truck for over 2 years & was his daily as well too. Now the truck is stock floored & the guy doing the work used the lower square tube bars as part of new suspension. The kit is very heavy duty & was designed/well built...if your looking to buy one then I would go with this kit.

 

Wow! Now that was a hell of a strong endorsement! I am going to add up the cost of DOM and tubing adapters and bushings/sleeves and everything and see if it is worth the extra $$$ for the kit. That is a cool pic though for sure! Thanks smctoy!

 

the chromemoly tubing is stronger than mild steel, allowing thinner wall thickness. my upper links for the hilux are only .120 wall. the lowers are going to be plate steel, fabricated into some abnormal links.

i myself am not into the monster lift. i love it on impalas but not on minis. i'm pretty happy with about 10" of lift and not worrying about losing a driveshaft.

 

depends on wht you want. i like to build alot of things but im not to sure about suspension becaise of the math envolved. whatever your comftorable doin and being safe i hate to c half done trucks out its not safe and gives everyone a bad rap.

 

Np...glad to help!

 

I got the wishbone kit from them (suicide) and it's damn stout. Looking at it now, you pay for convience. I got the super pivots and like the ease of not having to put everything together. Plus everything was tig'd and it looks great. Like it was said on here, if you don't want to build one, you really can't go wrong with these guys when it comes to their suspension components.

 

You know the only thought I had after seeing that is P.I.T. maneuver avoidance. Car swings over truck lifts up.... no contact still going...

 

Just buy the kit and save yourself some time. You can build it a little cheaper yourself but you'll have some time it. You'd have to buy the ends and bushing, the tubing, the tabs, the notcher to notch the tubing or at least a hole saw.

I've installed a couple of these. they work great and will hold up on fullsizes. I even run a custom one on my truck. Just use a smaller valve. 1 inch in the bag can sometimes equal 2 or 3 of lift depending on bag placement. doesn't sound like a big deal until you try to get it to just the right height.

BTW this is a leverage setup, not cantilever.

 

Thanks for the advice. I probably will end up just buying the kit. As for it being a leverage setup and not a cantilever, this is the first I have heard of a leverage setup. What is the difference if you don't mind explaining it? Thanks!

Oh yeah, and there is a pretty decent coper/notcher in the shop I work at so that is not an issue if I need to cope tubes.

 

cantilever is using a bar with a pivot point. one end is the bag, and the other end would be a small link that goes to the 4link. imagine a see saw.

 

I'm glad the guy at suicidedoors knew what I was talking about. The leverage type was actually what I meant to say. Thanks for clearing that up for me.