Transmission gears engage losely

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  1. MrVit0

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    5 speed, it feels like stick shift cannot hit proper gear you have to really aim to get into any gear i wonder if its some easy fix i can preform, can i take the stick shift from top of the car without dropping transmission?

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    Clean the area around the stick and you'll get a clear view of the steel retainer holding the stick in place. Push it down and turn it counter clockwise to release the stick. Put the trans in neutral and remove the handle. Now look down the hole into the trans. There is a "shifter seat bushing" that the handle rides on, it is common for it to fail. There is also a plastic bushing that snaps onto the tip of the handle. It is a common failure item too.

    Both bushings are available from either lceperformance.com or marlincrawler.com in an upgraded material than the stock junk.
     
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    Might actually be the push and twist type also...

     
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    It was push and turn indeed, however i cannot afford $300 on new seat and shifter

    I will look on junk yard for one, what exact gearbox model is used on pickup is it found on any other car as truck is tough to find on junk yard.

    Here's what i think problem is, handle turns left and right around the housing and i know for fact it should not do that. I guess that pins inside housing (left and right from the shifter) supposed to hold shifter from turning around and mine drops too low way below that pins.

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    If you still had a shifter seat bushing the handle wouldn't drop below the pins.
     
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    Thanks, i will will order the repair bushing for now however ther's another problem left spring that returns shifter to middle position does not work well. Its going to be inside housing if i pull it off, do they sell replacement spring somewhere?

    It had this bushing one don't know if its stock or not its soft rubber.
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    Also my shifter looks too worn i guess i should replace it also?

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    This piece where does it go?
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    Wow your handle is shot. That rubber piece goes under the stock bushing to space it up. The white bushing snaps onto the tip of the handle onto what is supposed to be a spherical ball.

    I might have a good handle for you, I'll look this evening at my stash.
     
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    Cant believe this people charge $10 to ship two gaskets that fits in a envelope its like paying $30 for a tiny piece of plastic essentially

    did anyone try Doorman set 924-258 it said to fit 4runner 1980-1990?
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    That's a $30 charge for pieces that won't wear out. The shifter seat bushing that Marlin sells is uhmw not the same urethane that deteriorates and causes issues like the stock piece.
     
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    I bet you cant make them with the tools you have at home, so its money well spent if it fixes the issue.
     
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    Perhaps i could use couple wide lids from juice bottles to try and make same one similar to what they sell. :)


    Ended up using one lock washer from home depot size M24 biggest one they had ($0.44 cents) to put under my old seat bushing basically so stick shift don't drop too far into housing and it started working great except there's plenty of play when in the gear however shifts perfectly.
    I made it straight heating over the kitchen stove and using two pliers.

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    Not the same washer i ended up using, but its similar outer diameter, lock washer could be expanded to necessary diameter however i did not have desire to do it right now and left it as is.

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    This is orientation of rubber washer that i used this way it spaces off ball from metal spacer washer i used,
    if i turn it around it would ball would rub on metal washer, i think this was original orientation anyway.

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    I've gone down the ghetto fix route so many times myself that I cannot talk smack about others that do the same as I've done. But I can say without any uncertainty that the charge for things such as shifter bushings are 100% worth the investment in the long run and in the short run as well.
     

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