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  1. 87pickup

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    So I'm going to do the intake battery swap today or tomorrow depending on my level of lazyness but the questions I have is:
    1. What do I do with the breather hose line? And the the sphere thingy
    2. Where can I get battery wire?

    Thanks alot
     
  2. 87pickup

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    Anyone?
     
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    Battery wire can be bought at almost any auto parts store. (Checker, Pep boys, ect.) If you want better wire, and I would recommend going with better wire, You can get them at automotive audio places, especially ones that do stereo installs. (Quality Auto Sound, ect.)
    If you have a welding supply place near you, you can always go with welding wire, as it is a high-strand pure copper cable.
    I would recommend going as large as you can, within reason on the cable, for power flow reasons and because copper prices are high and only going to get higher. If you decide to upgrade in the future, your cable may end up costing double what it will at todays prices, so its wise to spend the money now and have the power capability on hand for any upgrades later on down the road.
    Hope this helps. I'm not sure about the other stuff.
     
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    If you're really on a budget, a set of heavy duty jumper cables have very large gauge copper wire. Has super thick insulation too. I always save my old sets after the clamps go bad.
     
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    Thanks guys i ran into a problem I thought the auto parts store had the adapter for the AFM but they don't does anyone know where I can get em?
     
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    eBay for sure even amazon...
     
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    Or adapt the parts store one to work. We did a 7m supra cold air using parts store gear once and had to modify the arm adapter to work.
     
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    OK I just ordered the adapter so it should come by Friday hopefully. Can I use amp wire to do the battery swap ? If so what size should I use
     
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    Yes u can use amp wire...and 4gauge should be good
     
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    Perfect thanks guys I should have it done this weekend
     
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    OK another question I have is once I'm done can I advance my timing if so what are the gains? I also run 91 if that'll help
     
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    what do you have done to your engine to require 91? if its stock or just a stock rebuild, you are waisting money on it and 87 will do you just fine.
     
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    Its just a stock top to bottom rebuild I run 91 because its better gas but I was thinking wouldn't help running 91 if your timing is advanced?
     
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    Its not necessarily "better gas", it just has more octane. Stock engines don't need this as they don't run the higher compression that requires the higher octane levels. The "premium", "Super Premium", Hyper-Super-Duper-Double-Dog-Dare Premium" names they put on fuels at the pump is really just a marketing gimmick, since most people standing at the pump with a choice of three octane levels would just choose the cheapest one. But add in a catch word like "premium" and sales go up.
    Another thing to think about is that I heard (not confirmed) that higher octane fuels dont perform as well in cold weather in lower compression engines. So you could actually be spending more to get LESS performance in the winter. But if thats wrong, someone who knows more can chime in and correct it.
     
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    I live in socal so I doubt it gets cold enough for it to effect the gas....no input on the timing change ?:confused:
     
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    I have foun Toyota dizzys to have a weak curve. I set mine around 15-18 BTDC with 91/93 octane. As long as it doesn't ping or fight the starter, the engine will take all timing it can get.
     
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    Thanks I'll try that out when I do the battery/intake swap...does it make a difference adjusting the timing??
     
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    Up here at 5200 ft, my brother and I both run about 10-12 degrees of timing. Helps a little bit and I run that on 85 octane.

    Like everyone has said, octane is simply the fuels ability to resist detonation/pinging. On my s/c'd 3.4, I still ping off 91 octane and 8 lbs of boost. Like standard said, they'll take about as much timing as you wanna try, but there will be a point when the gain won't be there. Experiment with it. There are so many variables such as mileage, altitude, etc that can affect it that you'll have to play with it to find it for your truck.
     
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    advancing the timing does help. it's not night and day free 50 hp but an extra 2-3 never hurts.

    Careful, most 22REs don't have a knock sensor so if you do over-advance, you'll blow the pistons out the pan and the ECU won't care. In 100f weather, 10 degrees pinged on my truck (89 octane, only ~700ft)
     
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    Reguarding the battery cables, go to a welding supply for the cables,only in black,so use red shrink wrap to mark the positive leads!:cool:
     

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