Another Newbie BUT WITH BIG PLANS AND A FEW QUESTIONS

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  1. LuXxx_1820

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    Well where do i start? Oh yea, well as you all know by now yess am a newbie to this website at least. I have a 1989 toyo 2wd extra cab and extended bed as well. I will share future plans a bit later on now.

    NOW ILL GET DOWN TO THE POINT HERE: MY QUESTION TO YOU FELLAS IS ARE WEBBERS ONLY FOR CARBURATED TRUCKS? The reason i ask is because my truck has a 22R but its fuel injected though and ive done my research on it and for the most part ive seen the engine bay's nuthin close to mine? Meaning my truck doesnt have a stock carburated or let alone even have one? Soo if this is the case where i cant put a webber on my truck due to it being fuel injected WHAT CAN I DO OR BUY IN PLACE OF A WEBBER? Does this make sense?
     
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    To answer your question in short; you can swap from the 22RE EFI intake manifold to a 22R carbed manifold and then put a weber on. A weber is a much better carb than the stock Asian types. More adjustability as well as air volume flow. They typically increase mileage a bit, and always increase power.

    You would also need a fuel pressure regulator I knock the pressure down to what a carb can take. But besides that its a pretty simple conversion. I've done the same concept to early EFI on dodge trucks (late 80s trucks). Swap intakes and knock the pressure down.


    Now, I have to ask why? Is your stock system having issues or were you looking to simplify things?

    Welcome to the site. There's no stupid questions here, just stupid paint jobs :lol:
     
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    If you are just taking common theory of "it's a Toyota, put a weber, get more power" then you can do plenty of things to increase power with the EFI setup. Most start with a better intake tract from the throttle body to the air filter. As well as a larger diameter exhaust tubing and free flowing muffler and car. Next would be higher voltage ignition, bigger camshaft and porting the intake manifold and cylinder head.

    If any of that lost you, just read around the site and see what other guys are doing. We're pretty like minded in getting low and quicker trucks. Post some pics. It's a friendly crowd here, but we love pics lol. Welcome again.
     
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    Damn bro both of your answers sounded pretty lagit and in fact gave me something to think about lol so let me take it from up top. So how excatly would i add a fuel pressure regulator? Mind you this is my first project truck i come from the import scene so working with trucks is a whole new ball game am assuming but please bare with me and thank you for the welcoming and yess i myself like pictures and i will be posting some soon but back to the subject here to answer your question about my truck system giving me problems the answer is hell no this past Saturday i got a FULLY REBUILT ENGINE NEW HEADS NEW PISTONS ECT EVERYTHING AND ANYTHING THAT GOES TO REBUILDING A ENGINE WAS DONE SO AM PRETTY MUCH SITTING NICE RIGHT NOW THATS WHY I WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF DOING WHAT I WANT NOW SINCE I GOT A NEW ENGINE IN BUT ANYHOW I KINDA WOULD LIKE TO STICK WITH EFI SETUP I HAVE NOW ONLY BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO RUN OR GET MYSELF INTO A MODIFICATION OR UPGRADE THAT WILL GO WRONG AND THEN NOT BE ABLE TO DIG MYSELF OUT OF IT YOU KNOW BUT LET ME ASK YOU THIS THOUGH. WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN MY CASE? Stick with EFI setup and see how far that takes horsepower wise or! Do that conversation you mentioned earlier about add fuel pressure reg.? Because to be honest i would be open to do the conversation if i had like step by step thing and of course i had the parts in hand to do it
     
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    If you have a working EFI setup, i would keep that. Both setups make about the same end power if the motor is built similar. And if your setup is all new and works, id just add to what you have going. Header and cold air intake. These motors respond to the same things import car motors do. Any engine for that matter.

    I was taught to think of an engine as an air pump. Get the air in or out better, you're more efficient. If you hit the air/fuel charge with a stronger ignition spark, it will get a better burn while its in the combustion chamber. The better it burns and flows the more power you make. That equates to better mileage in most cases, because if you can get the same amount if output force with less fuel input, you get further with the same gallon.

    More people will chime in by tomorrow I'm sure. Not too many night owls here except me and a few guys. Lotta day time members here.
     
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    If you have a 22RE there is the electronics to consider! The computer will need to be changed also!!
    Why change from EFI to a carb set up! EFI is far better!!:cool:
     
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    So a EFI SETUP IT IS THEN :) btw i truly appreciate all the input you have provided for me. I didnt think anyone would want to reply to my post thats why i was a lil skeptical about making one hahaha but anyhow can what am trying to do at this point is do a few mods to the truck with out doing any of the internal stuff like camshaft,pistols ect ONLY because i jst the engine rebuilt and i made the mistake of not rebuilding it with aftermarket internals so for now i want more of the bolt on stuff and maybe later ill build another 22r on the side with aftermarket parts. So my next just here and i apologize for my questions to am just trying to get basic knowledge of stuff before i start tearing Shhh apart haha
     
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    As mentioned before here are some poxs....i present to you PAMMY my truck..yess shes a lil rough on the edges but that will change
     

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    Yea ive heard me say and tell me that EFI is a waaay better setup but my thing is this...is there enough aftermarket parts for a EFi motor? Like bolt on ect
     
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    My 88 back when she was my commuter & tool hauler,started with a K&N air filter & LC headers w/ better complete exhaust system. Made a difference with just that!


    Next was their street cam/valve springs/& retainers,this was with 103,000, she was very responsive!

    Than I retired & started my truck project that has been going on for 13 years now. A complete LC PRO Street EFI with all that they recommended went in 8 years ago,only 25,000 miles on the engine. And it has all the power that is needed!! Cruises along easily @ 80 & above,can hit 140,though I don't offen go past 110-120!!

    These little 4 bangers can be tuned & built to pull some very good numbers!!:cool:
     
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    Mine will snap to 130 pretty quick. My gearing keeps it from going faster lol.
     
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    Oooooooh damn she had some power on her huh lol...see thats sort of what am trying to do except not have to pull out internals to put better cams/valves ect which i understand that it gives you power and stuff but am leaning to get as much bolt on parts cause i just got the engine in Saturday and i really dont want to pull it out.

    NOW I GOT QUESTIONS FOR YOU MY FRIEND LOL...WAT DO YOU MEAN BY LC PRO STREET EFI? And SECOND WHY DID IT TOOK YOU SO LONG TO GET WHERE YOUR AT NOW? Was that time spent just on the performance of the truck or the whole truck overall?

    I would really like for you to give me some input since your familiar with EFI setup and its power
     
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    You be flying threw streets huh lol..did you look at the pictures i posted bro?
     
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    Lc pro street efi is LC Engineerings Efi setup that they consider pro street..
     
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    Cool start...ur from so cal what city?
     
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    Ooh alright,again am sorry for any dumb questions but again am just starting to get into this scene so bare with me fellas
     
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    Am from riverside...i see your from corona
     
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    The basic bolt ons would be a header and exhaust system. That can carry over to any engine. The stock internals are fine for most cases. And a mild cam can be swapped without new valve springs. And it's right up top. Porting your intake manifold will help as well. LC engineering is one company that does lots of work for these motors. Check their site. Lots of their ideas can be copied. These motors are pretty peppy even stock. Header and intake porting are my 2 biggest suggestions.
     
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    No worries!:waytogo: Just trying to help out..:headbang:
     
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    Newbie question buuut what does it mean to have your manifold "Ported" and also am sure new throttle body can help as well right?
     

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