Engine Swap!

Discussion in 'Engine/Drivetrain' started by 93Yoter, May 10, 2007.

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Which Engine Swap???????????????

  1. 1uz-fe V8 from Lexus SC400

    23.5%
  2. 7mgte I-6 from Supra Turbo

    27.6%
  3. Build up the 22re including turbo

    28.6%
  4. Other (write suggestions)

    20.4%
  1. Bakemono

    Bakemono Newbie

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    Hey man, its your truck, do what you want, I just think its wrong to put a non-Toyota engine in a Toyota.
    I personally dont get where you think a 3.4L is a waste or time and money, the cost is too high and the results arent worth it.
    With a supercharger a 3.4L should be putting out at least 260 hp and still be lighter than a Chevy 350.
    Id say the 2JZ would be the best option, those engines have amazing performance potential.
    Do what you want, and make sure you post up a writeup and some pics. Im sure it will be an interesting read regardless of what you do.
     
  2. 93Yoter

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    um I'm not swapping in a nontoyota engine lol I don't know where you got that. The 7m,2j,1j are supra engines and the 1uzfe V8 is from a lexus. I will definately be posting tons of pics, writeup, Solid modeling files, etc when I do it. The 3.4 costs about $3000 for a good one the tranny is at least another $500 add in another $500 or so for the ecu, wiring etc, and the supercharger runs another $3000 so thats about $7000 for only 260hp and only acceptable gas mileage. While I can do a 7m, 1jz, or 1uzfe swap for about 2 grand with low mileage engines with possibly a couple of bolt ons for $7000 I could put my truck in the 11's with any of the other engines. the 2jz is also very exspensive and not really worth it to me since the 1jz is better suited to my truck. Crap the 1jz keeps looking better and better :). The 7m is cheap but old technology.
     
  3. str8_6

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    now you're getting the idea 93yoter! lol

    i'll post up very detailed pics soon to prove to you that
    1. no firewall modding unless you want stock twins ...even a little firewall bashing doesnt hurt anything...even with stock twins all you need to do is bash it in a little...but single swap is cheap 1400ish..give or take on quality. theres like 1200 kits available with exhaust mani, turbo, etc..

    right now i'm using a stock non turbo trans, but if you buy a complete front clip...which should be no more then 3k you get the beefy r154 trans and everything along with it. THEN!....sell the parts you dont need and make back at least $500.00.

    2. the radiator support was cut, but can easily be modded to reconnect...and the intercooler setup is just about as easy as any other custom intercooler setup. you can get all sorts of metal piping tube bends for dirt cheap.

    3. the rear end is stock axle/housing...with an mkii supra rear end. it has welded diff, but you can buy a trutrac for it which they make now for the 7.5". the only mod you'll need to order is the driveshaft...at least as far as i know. but there's hundreds of place that will do that for you.

    dont be afraid of doing it. just dig into to...if you think about it too much then you'll be intimidated. you live and learn...going this route..you'll live even better and learn that not a lot of people can touch you on the streets. you can pop your hood with pride...wirings everywhere..stuff not fully done..who cares..its 1jz in a mini! you get my point. pics coming soon.
     
  4. Litneon

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    Preach it brother!:cool:
     
  5. 93Yoter

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    Ya I'm buying a front clip regardless of what I do since it's barely more expensive than buying all the parts seperate. How did you use a irs supra gear in the toyota pickup solid axle? I'm not intimidated with the swap I'm pretty smart and I'm doing mechanical engineering so I want to do this while I have access to the school's shop. I've never even changed a clutch before though so I don't know that much but I figure I'll learn along the way. I might still see if the 1uzfe pans out. It's still the lightest engine with the most potential but who knows at this point.
     
  6. str8_6

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    the 1uz is great in stock form and if you want to be orginal, but there's little support aftermarket wise. i've seen some lexus 1uz go over 300k and it still ran like a champ with just basic tune up. plus unlike the 1jz, there are actually manuels in ENGLISH!...

    you can take the internals of the 1986 and older supra/cressida differential and retrofit it into our rear ends (lol...i said rear end). they are both 7.5" the setup is different...anyone can see that, but internally its the same dimensions almost.

    here is a link. http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/supra_lsd/

    i personally would go for a truetrac or locker if you are going to drag race it, having welded gears right now with both wheels spinning all the time isnt even that bad. maybe cuz i work at a tire store :)

    check this out too www.supracharged.com
    http://www.rsworld.com/~nicksb/
     
  7. Bakemono

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    I dont get where you think a 3.4L is going to cost you $3000. You should be able to find a good one for under $1000.
    I know many people who did 3.4L swaps and it wasnt that expensive at all.
     
  8. 93Yoter

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    That was one I found on ebay with all the acessories. I honestly don't see the point of putting so much time and effort into a swap for a heavy V6 when I can do a light (less than the 22re) lexus V8 swap for cheaper!
     
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    go with the v8:)
     
  10. yotakid94

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    you got my vote, i say rebuild the 22r an i dont know if you heard of lcengineering but go there they have everything you will need to do it
     
  11. badcoma

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    i'm in the same boat as you. but my 3 choices are rebuilding the 22re, toyota 4 cyl diesel or the 3.4l v6. as it sits the 22re is leading the way but not by much. the 3.4 i can pick up for under a grand the only prob is the trans is a 4wd, not good for something getting body dropped. the diesel is a simple hook up and run motor also under a grand. but the 22re is still leading the way. mostly cause the steering the 3.4 v6 has the oil pan set up for rack and pinion and i really don't want to have to deal with that.
     
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    Where are you finding the diesel for under a grand? Just curious...
     
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    Supra...:)
     
  14. badcoma

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    i have some friends in the right places i guess.
    why is it a swap you would think of ? my main reason it's not high on my list is i would guess power to weight wouldn't be worth it.
     
  15. Litneon

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    Well, there is a turbo diesel and you can make relatively big numbers with some fine tuning.


    And yes I would consider it, there aren't any out there. Well, here anyway.
     
  16. badcoma

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    i believe the motor was a turbo and with the new info i might be considering it a little more.
     
  17. Litneon

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    You'll have to check. There were a few diesels available overseas in the hilux, only one of which was a turbo diesel.
     
  18. JamesD

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    Well if you go with a Supra motor then you have the most choices of transmissions. Any of the UZ motors will be automatic since they never made them with a manual trans unless you make your own bellhousing or get one from Australia since they make the conversion bellhousings there to run a manual trans behind a UZ motor. My vote is either the UZ or the Supra motor.

    James
     
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    How about the supercharged 22R?? Old skewl!
     
  20. lucky_brew

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    supercharger from lc engineering! =)
     

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