Appears things are working out that I'm going to end up with a '67 stout here in the next month. Pretty stoked! As all 45 year old rigs it needs some love but heck, I've seen worse! Plan is to drive it for a bit then start modifying it, have a 3rz and auto that came with it, entire interior from a Tacoma that I can piecemeal in... Here's my question. Motor in stout was rebuilt 5k ago and is running very well. With the need for updated brakes I'm contemplating chAssis swap. Is there any interest in a bone stock frame/chassis with motor and transmission? I am uncertain if I can break even on selling the chassis with having to buy a fresh chassis.... I've read the builds and seen both ways done, while I can build a frame rather not........ Look forward to your input!
It would be worth restoring the RK41 chassis, well I would as a stout in near original condition is something not real common in the US due to the ability to modify in ways not legal such as here in Australia. There is a 67 on add vintage motors on facebook that has a turbo 3rz that might be worth a look although the stouts engine bay is not real big in length or height for larger ohc engines. Personally the early R engines were built out of good metal and the weakest part of the 1900 3R was the original fibrosis timing gears that were prone to fail yet brass replacements are available and the early R engines were all able to use LPG/propane without modifications so this combined with them being low compression makes them near ideal for some belt driven forced induction rather than the hack and shoehorned approach to obtain more power
Not sure it's worth restoring, been a work truck so kind of beat up! Plus I really want to be able to drive daily and longer distances.. Reguardless will drive it as is for a few years and not do any motor changes unless motor early. Newer brakes are wanted for sure and so far no luck finding hilux set up to swap on. I really like being confident in stopping... Will see how she does but guessing will be hard pressed to keep up with traffic which would be needed for a driver. Understand the want to restore but honeay to do it right would be more than I can afford to do it "right" (complete frame up restore) especially for something that I hope will get used as a truck.
As an Australian so many modifications are not legal here and where I live in Queensland we are not allowed to increase the engine size by more than 10% and that is power output displacement and weight, chassis swaps and front clips are a big no and brake upgrades must be preaproved or a factory option. In Australia the ford falcon has the same wheel stud/lug pattern this allows 14 inch rims to replace the 13's the RK43 had, only the US had the 1900 3R the RK43 only had 2R 1500 and were even slower than the US version. now what I was getting at with the ford falcon is disc brake rotors and calipers. The Aussie ford falcon was based off US models and many parts came from the US, so it should not be that hard to fit four wheel disc brakes by removing the original drums and backing plates and making brackets to mount the calipers instead, this is done and can be found by googling Toyota landcrusier rear disc brakes "modifications". For an engine I realize you have a 3rz and I say this as an Aussie the Toyota 4a-c could be made legal in Queensland and is suited to the stouts diff ratio and as the 2, 3 and 5R engines do not like to rev over 4, 800rpm and is lucky to do 5 grand a 4a or 4age would love it. All of what I have commented about is based on my own passion for the stouts and is only about getting around rules and regulations of where I live and what is not legal such as the disc brakes can easily be put back to the original brakes if need be so original condition and street legal Edit oh the US only version RK41 was only half ton 450kg metric the RK43 one tonne 1000kg metric payload the brakes were designed to be able to stop them on a down hill loaded, the RK43 and RK41 are the same apart from the US version had larger tires and engine
Oh the lite stout Rk41 and RK43 possibly have an E series diff centre as do the toyota "van"wonderwagon/tarago/masterace that could be a clean bolt in swap for better ratio and road speed. Due to the over the top very restrictive modifications rules here, every possible option I have researched into what can be done without doing any form of structural modifications that could be deemed illegal or irreversible Edit again Many Australians read these as well so I am not saying what to do, just options of what can be done.
I'm looking into the falcon swap as well as what diff is in it. I'm quite familiar with the 8" r&p that are in the us version hilux/4runner/surfs as its in my crawler. I appreciate all your input. Once again will decide once I've laid hands on it and played a little bit!
Oops I had 8.5 " diff centre which was not true, the stout had the same diff as the first of hiace or H10 series van that is possibly the same E series in newer models as stated above, the hilux or early toyota pickup do not have the same series differential as they were designed and built by hino.
Wel got an extra set of 4x4 axles laying around as well as a 8" 3rd sitting under the workbench so will figure it out! Intrigued on the falcon swap. Have a call out to my local ford guy.... May just wander about the salvage yard as well..... See what I can find that may work... I appreciate your input as all info is being catalogued!
Just watching an episode of dream car garage and the Aussie ford falcon and the US mustang would be the same pending year for four wheel disc brakes, the rotors and calipers should be able to be made to fit on a lite stout RK40, RK41 and RK43
Got my '67 today. Came from bakersfield so Cali car, all surface rust (and a bit of it too!) all the rubber is shot, but has stock jack and handle, even stock air filter (TEQ). Appears original spare, bias ply dry rotted to no end, all stock rims and caps. Been popped in the passenger door so that is going to require some massaging with a big ol hammer later, brakes work well, all lights appear to be working and heck, Im quite happy! Was told that it was apt to run a little warm and prior owner (s) didnt know why, grabbed the fan and it moved a bit back and forth so the water pump is shot. Got one coming in from Cabe Toyota. Also working on getting windshield seal/gaskets made, Mike Bingham wants to restock some so were trying to get a better deal by having a few made at one time, will keep you all informed on how that comes out.
