any1 ever gone manual brakes?

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  1. stroked90hatch

    stroked90hatch Enthusiast

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    Any1 ever gone manual brakes on a yota?....I switched over too manual on my mustang raised the pivot point on push rod and stops awesome with a nice pedal feel.....
     
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    There are a few people on here that have done it I believe. Look it up in the search area, I've been contemplating on the same thing...
     
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    Tried searching didn't come up wit anything....
     
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    No... And I haven't tried tossing a large boat anchor out the window to stop or shoving my feet through a hole in the floorboards either.
    Seriously, power brakes are there because they work better. Giving more clamping force and a safer ride. Why would you want to disable that?
    I'm honestly not trying to knock what your doing or your ideas, but it seems like a lot of work to go through to make LESS performance.
     
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    I'm guessing u neva atcually drove a vechicle with manual brakes....pedals usually not hard.....I have a 750hp mustang that traps 140+mph in 1/4 mile and has manual brakes I cruise the car a lot on nice days in traffic and all and it stops on a dime....and all that is factory disc brakes with a old dodge power wagon manual brake master cylinder....were talkin bout a slug 4 cylinder I tossing around the idea of useing a factory 79-83 mustang master cylinder....jus trin too see what others were using 1st
     
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    i have a wilwood manual setup in my hilux and i like it. i know it's not a stock unit like you want to use but it's not a big deal with manual.

    my 66 mustang had a booster added and i ripped that crap right out. also my 64 biscayne was manual. i guess if you've driven on em before you won't mind driving on them now lol.
     
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    I'm not even reading this ,as why in the world would you want inferior brakes!!!:confused:
     
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    Don't want to bash anyone here either but why would a safety rule of a sport that runs cars over 300mph require a manual brake setup Instead of power. Reason is because they are safer. In the event you lose power the Car can still be stopped. Sure not everyone will ever in their lives experience losing power to their car BUT it does happen. Maybe not the reason it wants to be done but if Stroked wants to do it then that's his deal...

    I say go for it. :waytogo:
     
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    The booster has ZERO effect on the performance of the brakes. The booster has a steel rod pushing straight to the master cylinder. The booster is nothing more then for creature comfort. In the 60's people didn't expect easy to push brakes or a/c etc. Inferior brakes would be a single reservoir in place of a dual unit. Assuming your leg bone isn't made of glass manual brakes work just fine.
     
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    Stroked, you may be right. I have driven a manual brake rig and it sucked, however, having thought about it, it was a big, old, F-series truck, so probably not the best platform to judge on. If you want to do it, I think, great! I'm just unclear on the benefits of doing it as the brakes in stock form don't seem to hinder anything.
     
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    Clearance issues with the bodydrop is main reason....jus a simple easy fix for clearence issues and makes the engine bay look a lot cleaner also
     
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    A LOT of people in the offroad scene do this when they cage and long travel there trucks. the booster is in the way for a lot of things like shocks and cage work. majority of them use a cnc setups CNC, Inc. - Manufacturers of Quality Pedals and Brake Components they use them on everything from toyota and ranger prerunners to full size class 1 race trucks. they seem to stop everything just fine. i dont see why there would be any issue on a bagged and bodied truck.
     
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    If you have a reason, great. the OP hasn't given a REASON to go to manual brakes.

    If you have an engine swap and it doesn't fit, great. same for chassis mods (cage, raise, lower, whatever).

    Dragsters do it because most of those engines run such a big cam that there isn't enough vacuum to work the booster. Even without vacuum (assuming a normal engine that makes enough in the first place), the booster's designed so you have 3-4 full presses of reserve before you run out of assist and it'll last days under normal conditions.

    Old cars had it with 4 wheel drums...drum brakes can be set up to add to the applied force considerably. Disks don't do that. That was also before they came up with the booster.

    I had an 87 S10 with factory manual brakes. I was fine with it but I'm 6'4" and 250 lbs. While I could lock the brakes an average size driver like my wife couldn't do much more than a normal stop and no more than a few of them before her leg started to cramp. Even so there was a noticeable difference in my leg muscles when I had it and before/after I had it. (got rid of it for the 'yota)

    If you do remove the booster for any reason just make sure you change the leverage and make sure you can still lock 'em up without hitting the floor. Also keep in mind the pedal mechanism wasn't designed for that much force. remember there are other options too, like mustangs going to a hydraboost system with the 4.6 because the booster didn't fit with the bigger heads.
     
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    ^ Such a winner. I like my assisted brakes, it makes driving not a pain in the ass.
     
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    You could also train a small monkey to hang out under your seat. When he sees you go to press on the brake he can spring out from under the seat and jump up and down on your foot, thus giving you "Assisted Braking". It'll be a bit startling the first few times, but then will just be funny to watch the reactions when other people drive your truck. Plus the monkey can double as a theft deterrent. Who is gonna steal your truck with an attack-trained monkey under the seat ready to gnaw on the leg of any unauthorized drivers. And all for the price of a few bananas!
     

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