Stout Disc Conversion?

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  1. errrik89

    errrik89 Newbie

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    Anyone know the best way to put disc brakes on my Stout? Its is a 67 and I was hoping to find a mid 70s spindle that I could fit in the existing control arms. Otherwise my other thought was to just graft on the front clip and/or parts from a 90s truck.

    Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. MercuryMan

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    I am interested in doing this to my '74 Hilux as well.

    Not sure if this would be the way to go, but I have seen this job completed on a BMW mini. They just got the upper and lower arm assembly with the disc hub attached from a newer Mini and the whole thing was just a bolt up job. Apparently there were no significant differences in the geometry between the two assemblies. Made it look really easy except for removing the spring.

    They way Toyota seems to minimize different parts, it seems possible the Stout set up might match a Hilux from the mid 70's. I would be curious if anyone knows about this as well. Love to get better stopping power up front.
     
  3. whysmee

    whysmee Enthusiast

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    hey erik there is a kit i have seen someone post about on one of the toyota forums, if i find it i will let you know either here or on toyota stout facebook.

    edit: '80yota http://www.toyotaminis.com/forum/members/-80yota/

    states his 67 has 78 hilux discs and booster, might be worth a try
     
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  4. Subscan

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    Grafting on a front clip ...can you do that?
     
  5. stout1900

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    I just managed to finish up bolting the disks onto my Stout less than a month ago. I wound up using the spindles,hubs,calipers, and most importantly the lower ball joints off of a '76 Dolphin. The Stouts used a lower ball joint that looks very similar to the hilux, but the spacing was off for the 3 studs into the lower A-arm. I ended up oblonging the holes just enough to fit the newer ball joint, and a bit of cleaning up around the lower Zerks to fit through the A-arm.I needed to re-use the Stout steering arms, they bolted to the spindles, but the bolts went from an M-8 shank to a M-10 or 12 so they needed to be drilled out slightly larger to allow the newer hardware. The brakes are very grabby with a single stage master, so an up grade in the plumbing of the system with a residual valve for the front will be in order down the line. I have some extra parts if you find you are in need
     
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  6. '80yota

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    stout1900 pretty much nailed it.
    Also like he said...just bolting them on will result in a unfriendly grabby setup. A Look for the 79-83 trucks, some of them have a power booster/master/ and proportioning valve all bolted together pretty much as one unit. Couple custom lines and done! enjoy a more driveable stout.
     
  7. stout1900

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    yeah i have been blitzing mine all over Nor Cal, and the two big gripes i have are my brakes and gear ratio, no big deal for a 46 year old ride. I plan to add a residual valve to keep a bit of pressure on the wheel cylinders so the drums may actually work. I was aiming to modify as little as possible, yet allow for some modern street friendly upgrades.
     
  8. whysmee

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    i would love to see photos of the disc brake conversion on key parts and slight modifications, as there a few in australia that would like to do the same.
    where i live in queensland we are not allowed to modify as freely as in the US and must retain factory option parts, hence the 79-83 hilux option.
    the modification such as front clips are not legal in australia, nor is the modification of steering in anyway outside factory options.
    there is a mount that can be found online that is used for the upgrading of brakes for the early land cruisers when disc brakes and a booster are fitted and as the stouts shared the same master cylinders.

    here is a link, it gives an idea but a complete kit can be found that will bolt straight up.
    Brake Booster Adapter early to 7/70 [FJ40] - $59.99 : CruiserParts.net, Toyota Landcruiser Parts

    otherwise there is a small group on facebook and i am assisting in the upgrading of wikipedia toyota stout page.

    what is a 76 dolphin?

    i have a 1962 RK45 toyopet stout and a 1976 RK101 toyota stout and the larger "full" stout versions share the same diff centre as land cruisers unlike the RK40, RK41, RK43 "lite" stout

    edit

    here is a couple more links, there words are better than mine
    http://www.jtoutfitters.com/toyota-early-fj40-land-cruiser-brake-booster-adapter-p-2052.html

    and
    http://www.fjparts.com/5870-land-cruiser-fj40-fj45-brake-booster-adapter-p-1512.html
     
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  9. Subscan

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    Any further update on this??
     
  10. blindlemon77

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    Yeah, i am also wondering what a 76 dolphin is.

    Very interested in this, almost the the point of putting some kind of tubing from the passenger seat to the brake master so the passenger can pump brake fluid into the master, while i pump the brakes, and the wheels pump dot 3 all over the road.

    Just kidding. but seriously, discs would be very ideal.
     
  11. whysmee

    whysmee Enthusiast

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    The first of second generation toyota hiace the h20 have the same ball joints as a "lite" stout and disc brakes that would bolt on without any modification and I found out the hard way a dolphin is a mobile home built on a toyota "hilux" pickup in the US, later models are known as the toyota Uhaul. The dolphin morso early hilux were not originally designed by toyota but hino, so apart from drive train are unrelated to the stout unlike the hiace after the end of the stout in the US an abundance of tooling and parts continued being used to build the hiace until the early 80's when the hilux and hiace had big enough markets of there own that diversity and part sharing was less of a necessity
     
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