layin doors on 20s???

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  1. yotalayinlow

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    is there anyone body dropped to the door on 20s? im bout to take my 88 an wanting to lay doors on 20s. i no after market control arms. would i have to z the front?? any advise would help. thanks
     
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    A Z is so u lay frame flat. U won't lay door on 20s without raising the fenders an bed rails. So in another words probably won't happen
     
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    yeah they wheels will come through the hood on that body for sure... why not just run some nice 19s and just go to rocker.... doored is overrated
     
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    yep it will take lots of raising to fit the tires in the front. mine is on 215/35/18s and i had to raise the front sheet metal.

    as a guy thats done it i advise not to. as jeremy said it's over rated and a pain in the ass.
     
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    damn. i really wanted to door it cuz no one around here at the shows really have anything doord there all to the rocker. anyone have any build pics on how to stock floor an traditional body drop? on an 84 to 88? @burnzya can u email me pics of ur truck how u raised ur front?
     
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    i actually put 06 tacoma sheetmetal on my truck. but before that i just split the fender in the V shaped bodyline and raised it up, then filled it back in.
     
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    If you wanna "door it" you can just go into the rocker an leave about 1/4" or plate the underside. It's not technically doored but I an alot of others consider this doored. The 20s you can forget about if your goin door. Only 84-88 I've seen on big wheels is "LOASIAN" on streetsource he's on 22s with stock metal bodied to rocker you could probably ask him to see what he did to keep stock metal
     
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    Ok so I seen this thread along with another of yours stating you want to do 6" BD. My professional advice is to NOT go that far. My buddy has a 94 thats BD 5" and on 17's his rims stick 1/2" above front and rear fenders and this is with a 1 1/4 Z in the front frame. He builds custom rides for a living and he says and I will say as well since I helped it is not worth it. I wont go into detail but if you dont believe me I can post some pics of it to maybe change your mind. He is now running 20's on it and it looks like an alligator due to all the sheetmetal work he had to do to cover tires and such. Way too much time into it for the end result, however he is the lowest truck in Idaho
     
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    Im not saying I don't believe you, but I would loveto see pics of that truck!
     
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    There's a guy on yotascene with a 89-94 ex cab on 18s I think doored. 6" body drop fenders are not cut or raised. It's. Stock floored to the rocker the. Doored traditional
     
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    the later trucks are a whole other animal. They may have the same frame and such, but no way are the same when talking body drops and dooring one.

    I've got a rockered 85 on 16's with 40 series tires and dont have but maybe 2 inches roughly before I hit my fender lips. No way you can do 19's or 20's and if Bernie says you can't door on 18's, believe him! He has done the build and has shown that it can't be. A lot of times being the lowest isn't what it's about. Building the cleanest truck is what it's about, and enjoying the hell out of it. Too many of us make this a competition.
     
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    Ok so for a few reference pics and cause a few asked here it is. Like I said neither of us suggest taking a truck down this far but its your truck so do what you wish. Be ready for a TON of work.

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    This is how far the rear wheels stick up above top bed rail.
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    How far the front rims stick up.
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    Still working on the fender flares to make them more smooth and user friendly, probably will take them down and make transitions a bit smoother over entire front end, tons of pie cuts and sectioning but end result should be worth something.
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    Holy crap that's a ton of fab work!!!
     
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    I really don't even understand why you would even do that, to be honest. It's not even recognizable as a Toyota anymore. Seems like the widening of the bed was done because the frame wasn't sucked in and the rear wasn't narrowed. Most of that fab work could have been lost by simply doing those two things. Also looks like a massive tire, 40 series?
     
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    Not diggin tht truck at all but it's his not mine an I can appreciate the work. But there is an 84 on 20s an is being redone on 22s for the 22s he'll probably have to raise the fenders. Here's a pic of it on 19s and bob grant did the 24 runner on 22s an 24s which I believe he raised the front fenders
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    Wow! Im digging it though because it is very different! I think I might have seen the truck at a show in the early begining stages of the build. Green 89-95 laid out on 20's with holes cut out of the top of the bedsides so the wheels wouldnt rub. It even had the same rims.
     
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    If i'm not mistaken, he's not Z'd, and he's also not doored. Completely different than doored. Rockers are roughly 2 inches or so if I remember right, so you could run 20's rockered but they will be super tight. No way for being doored. I'd run 16's and maybe 17's doored lol.
     
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    well imma try it i dont like all the hating goin on but its cool. im doing 2.5 stock floor an what ever else to lay bout 1/4 inch from door. an i believe with mmw control arms ill get enough lift. an i damn sure would not do the body work like was done on those pics thats way over board. im using a ford 8.8 shortend 2in on both sides (4 in total) cuz i wanna run a rim with a lip. an im doing a custom back half with a 4 link bag on bottom bar.
     
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    Well I hate to say it but that looks like a pile of scrap metal to me, but to eats they're own I guess.....

    Man I wish you the best of luck building whatever you want but I agree with Grant... Dont get to hung up on the mods as much as building a clean reliable truck....
     
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    Well on Toyotas you don't technically have to Z it. You can section the front crossmember and raise your lower control arm up the 1 1/4". I've talked to a guy tht did it he said thts all he did and didn't raise the upper. The only yota tht needs a z is the taco. And Bobby from sadistic did the same. Also a tech in mini truckin. Noones hatin man just giving opinions doored looks retarded when aired up only seen one tht didn't look bad aired up an it was a 89-95 body. You should stock floor as much as possible then go with traditional the rest of the way
     

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