3stge fitment

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  1. StupidSheet

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    Does anyone know of any fitment issues if one was to drop one of these into a 73? There is one for sale locally for $600. Is that a decent price? What's the HP rating on these? What did they come in?
     
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    Is it RWD compatible? Looks like its a FWD only machine. But IDK???
     
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    wowsers! that looks like a tall engine with the intake sticking up as high as it does...
    might have some steering linkage issues.
     
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    Toyota Altezza's in Japan (Lexus IS300 equivalent) were produced with a 2liter 3s-ge BEAMS motor with a 5/6spd I believe. The other option was an outdated 2liter 6cylinder or the 3liter 2jz-ge.
    So yes, the 3s-ge comes in rwd. The 3s-gte is fwd.
    You can try putting gte parts on the ge. Or just gte to rwd transmission.


    Very good motor, it'd be a motor I'd use.
     
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    Only limitation may be trying to find the actual transmission and bellhousing itself. Other than that, you'll be on a roll
     
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    If you want to do it look at Oz and NZ based forums, this conversion has been done a number of times to various vehicles. I would start witth www.toymods.net, the tech section is public but you need to sign up to see the members rides areas where there are some full builds very well documented.

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    Thx for the help guys and thx for the link WDE_BDY!
     
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    Altezza's manual and bellhousing for 3sge beams + 3s-gte

    you'll be set
     
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    You want to check on the sump and pickup though, the 4WD motors are setup to be mounted on an angle that is very different from the RWD 3S-GE BEAMS motor.

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    It can always be changed.
     
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    Oh yeah, no real problem to change. Just making them aware they need to add it to the list.

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    What do I find those in?

    Just got a reply and the the motor came out of a 91 MR2 RWD. Think it can be made to work or is the tranny issue gonna kill me?
     
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    The tranny issue is just a matter of getting the right gearbox or bellhousing. The Altezza is a jap spec IS200 running the 3S-GE instead of the 1G-FE, model is SXE10. You will probably need to talk to an importer to get one in the US, from memory the box is a J160(???) 6 speed but has an integral bellhousing so you have to get the specific 3S box.
    The other option is importing an early S series RWD bellhousing from NZ or Oz which will bolt up to the W series alloy boxes, there are planty of details on the work needed on Toymods but basically you need a wider spigot bearing or to shave the front of the bellhousing. There is also a little messing around with the starter motor.
    Or if you have the fabrication skills get a busted 3S box and cut the bellhousing off, then mate it up to the back half of any suitable RWD bellhousing. Just make sure it is straight.

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    I guess I'll have to do some reading at Toymods. Thx for the info!
     
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    probably thinking v160
     
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    Did a quick bit of googling and came up with this -
    As said above though the bellhousing is integral so you have to get the 3S Altezza one.

    Callum
     

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