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  1. Dgerfan55

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    But cheapest way to get alot of horsepower out of your engine? Im getting a intake soon here i hope but what else can i do?:shrug:
     
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    i hear porting the head gives you good amount of power, and having a 20R head with the 22R block = hybrid beast! as in, nasty badass power...
     
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    Does that mess with smog any? About what would it cost?
     
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    your not gonna get allot of HP out of the 22re for cheap, it's gonna take allot of money to get it comparable with a taco 2.4, but you could get a new head from engnbldr with a cam, header and full exhaust..thats probably over a G right there
     
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    Whats your definition of cheep?

    I got like 300-400 bucks in my engine, and it runs good. A strech of approx. 20-30 hp over stock.

    But your in Cali, throw your hotrodding dreams away. Or move to Texas! :lol:
    But if your slick, and have some decent money, Maybe a built RTE motor? :shrug: Thats what I would look into. But smog rules says its a no-no.
    If you were smog exemp, motor swap definatly. 7m, 1UZ, SBF, whatever. Talking rear power here...

    But more likely than not,
    a bigger (5m?) throttle body,
    Smog legal header,
    Free flowin cat and exhaust,
    bumped timing,
    Lightened flywheel, sporty trans (w58).
    Whats your gears?
    Cam. IDK what you can get away with on F.I.
    Bigger (supra?) injectors.
    Porting the head is not hard, and can be done yourself cheap.


    Im not a 22RE expert, but thats an idea of what to look into.
     
  6. SD YOTA

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    you have a conflict of words in your search......... cheap and horsepower do not go in the same sentance.

    if you want potent power quick and easy, there is NO2. slightly cost effective for the amount of power you can get. like any up side, theres a down. i can go on a total list but plain and simple, added power especially power of that nature will decrease your engines life.
     
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    After you do the intake runner setup, port out your intake manifold. It will pick up some throttle response. Might not get much higher numbers, but it will flow better. No real down side to that. Take the gasket from the TB, upper/lower halves, and to the head and mark the material that can be removed to make the hole match the gasket. Thats called gasket matching.

    The larger throttle body from a supra is probably not too tough as long as you swap sensors over. Again, not a real downside to it.

    Next up would be the exhaust. Get that manifold off of there and put a header. There are lots of choices. A 4-1 style makes better top end, and a 4-2-1 makes better mid and low power. Depends how you drive it. From there back run larger exhaust tubing, and I'd highly suggest an aftermarket high flow cat.

    All of those mods won't equate to making it a beast. But it shouldn't have any long term issues either. Your motor will be able to breathe in and out better, making it more efficient at doing what it does. That almost always equates to better mileage due to the fact that the motor can make enough power to get you moving with less throttle needed. Any other mods that can be done would be limited in results until these basics are done anyways.

    After that, if you still have some money to use, get a better coil/plug wires. They will provide a stronger spark that helps the motor spin higher RPMs without struggling. And set the timing at 12* BTDC and add to it slightly until you get pinging in a high load situation (high gear/low speed, up a hill, ect)
     
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    Ya i kinda figured it wouldnt be cheap but i just wanted good stuff.Thanks for the help TM. Anyone got pics of mods done to there 22re motor?
     
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    What kind of intake are you getting? If you are talking about a "cold air" intake kit, you will be wasting your money. Your ECM is pre-set with setting and the cold air intakes will not do a thing to gain performance.

    Things you could do "cheap" is to get a TRD/LCE header, Magnaflow/Gibson cat-back exhaust, ECU chip upgrade from JET, Iridium NGK/Denso plugs and wires, MSD coil.


    Stay away from cold air intake kits, gauze style "high flow" air filters, throttle body spacers.
     
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    ^^^^Wow that Jet ECU upgrade is 400. bucks!! What kind of HP increase could you get from that? I might save up for my 5mge supra. Only got about 150hp on the 220000 mile engine.
     
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    Thanks man but its not a cold air just aluminum tube and filter.Got any pics of this stuff done?:drool:
     
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    Thats what the "cold air" intake kits are(they come as a metal tube or a composite tube). You are better off with the stock intake and air box.

    No pics on hand though. But here is what to look for:

    TRD Header:
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    i just want to know how the cold air intake is a waste of money :shrug: thats almost saying that doing a port job on the head and intake is a waste of time and money
    toyotas run better with more air thats one of the key elements to more power
     
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    The engine is only going to draw in so much air, and a cold air intake will not draw in anymore air than what the stock tubing will do. A port job is different than a metal tube with a cone airfilter. And with a stock ecu settings and air flow meter, the cold air intake is a waste of money. Also having a metal tube will attract heat thus making the intake air charge hotter than stock making the performance "cold air" intake useless.

    Now a short ram air kit will help with throttle responce, but again you will need to get air out in order to get air in.
     
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    lol

    thanks for backing me up here

    you can def feel a intake , eventhought is a short ram

    you get 2-3 more miles per gallon too :clapping:

    if i have a 22re , i would leave everything stock besides ebay intake with k&n filter and a 3" catback with test pipe, that would get better mpg and a lil more power that you def can feel, i would leave the header along, cuz a carb legal header is so expensive here in cali, it doesnt equal the power it makes.

    good luck researching :waytogo:
     
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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
    Don't mind me.

    I just have a K&N and a Magnaflow. Didn't you want pic's of my intake DGER? I think I remember you asking for a pic in another thread. I might be mistaken.
     
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    haha nice. Where did u get that? Just google it or what?
     
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    Notice: I've removed the childish back-and-forth pissing match argument from this thread. The two of you who were involved (YOU know who YOU are) need to realize that this is not the kind of forum for that kind of garbage.

    Take your bickering to PMs - or another site. It's not welcome here.
     
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    Rightly said, back to topic. (sorry Jeff)

    Anyway, save your money on quality performance. If that is your goal you need to spend decent money to get real horsepower out of the 22RE. Like what B.Y.E. added nitrous but even that cannot be done "cheap."

    Just take your time and do it right, it will pay off in the end.
     

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