Bottoming out

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  1. 93Yoter

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    Hey guys, I'm looking for some recommendations for my 93 2wd with 2" drop spindles and 235/45/17's. It bottoms out in the front over bumps. The tire hits the wheel well. So what can I do to stop that? It seems like a 2" drop is nothing so it shouldn't be bottoming out, granted I am running a large tire but it is about the same diameter as stock. I do not want to cut or bang out my wheel wells. Will changing the shocks out to a drop shock really make that big of a difference? and if so which ones (toxic or belltech nitro)?

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    are your shocks even good? i dropped mine via torsion bars and the ride was sh!tty. went back and re-indexed them and re-indexed the key aswell. It tightened up the ride alot. i still need shocks.

    if u have a grinder handy, grind down some of the bolts stickin out from the bottom of the fenderwell before it chews up ur tire or pops a hole in it
     
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    I agree, check your shocks. I'm running factory wheels and tires with a 2/3 drop with no issues. I did Belltech 2" drop spindles and Toxic drop shocks.
     
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    I am running 20x8.5s. My tire (235/30R20) is the same diameter as stock. I have 2" drop spindles and a ball joint flip. I have not touched the torsions. I have no inner fender plastics. My tires hit the pinch weld on the inner fender/firewall before the arm hits the bump stop. It is the width of the wheels vs the lack of width of the stock wheels that puts the tire into the pinch weld. I have to fold the pinch weld over when I get my truck out for spring so I can drive it more this year without risking slicing my tire open. Cranking the torsions only closes up the travel of the suspension so it will just ride closer to bottoming out.

    *edit* I want to add that it's in turns that I have issues. When I hit a bump (like pulling into a driveway from the street) and I am also turning is when it hits.
     
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    You're running 20s? Sounds like you need to get lower!

    Step 1 crank down torsions
    Step 2 buy KYB gas a justs from a 69 camaro v8
    Step 3 use a grinder and large hammer to make fender clearance
    And if you have a welder Step 4 is tub the fenders.
     
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    I wasn't really asking a question, I was just making a statement about how my wheels are the same diameter as stock and they do in fact hit the pinch weld.

    I am not touching the torsions, I am holding out for bags and body drop.

    I ran kyb 69 camaro shocks on my 87 toyota in the 80s.

    I have a welder and will be tubbing *
     
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    This.
    Hammer it out, grind down the nuts and bolts.
     
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    +1 on this.
    26.1" tires (basically factory) will rub the wells and the pinch welds.
    My 16" wheels have slightly smaller tires and with hammered wells and pinches, it rarely rubs in the front.
     
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    Or. . . Cut the fenderwells out completely and throw them in the trash. . . That's my plan. :)
     
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    I know I know... I'm an idiot... Time 2 sleep
     
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    I don't know why you all are having rubbing issues, I'm not. :shrug:
     
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    It's the width of the tire.....where my outer edge of the wider tread catches the pinch weld, your stocker doesn't. What size are your new rims and what tires are you getting?..You just may have the same issue after. Its not that bad, a lil work and they won't rub.
     
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    I'd do that but I drive 24/7 all year round. include snow and the amounts of salt they lay down out here. :/



    If I cut my wells out, I would've let her ride even lower. at that point I wouldn't be able to drive it through the neighborhood streets and make it up the driveway. :cry:
     
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    They're 18x8 with a +40 offset and probly goin with a 235/40-18. I had 18's with the same size tire on it before and don't remember any rubbing.

    Nam, you're also a little lower than a 2" drop.
     
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    :D

    I think once you get around the 2.5"-3" drop area, the shape of the wheel well just factors in and starts rubbing.

    I do remember at stock ride height, I hit a dip and heard the front tires rub or something. Maybe i had a 1" drop... ANYWAY. sorry for going off topic
     
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    How are you off topic? :lol:
     
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    I would also venture to say that every truck is a little different in the clearance and shape of the inner wheel wells. Just folding over the pinch weld will be more than enough to fix my issue until I get to tubbing the whole thing.
     
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    Do like in the 80s and run those shocks and your problem (you were asking for a remedy) will be fixed. Or just extend the bump stops.
     
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    Again, I never asked a question or was looking for a remedy. I was merely stating that it is possible for a tire the diameter of a stock tire to indeed hit the inner wells.
     
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    There isn't any way around the rub. Well, that doesn't involve sheet metal work. You can fold the pinch, I did this. And shorten all the bolts that protrude through the inner fender well.
    Short of tubbing, that's all you can do. For me, the bump stop is not an option, I abhor crappy riding suspensions. Ejector Seat Syndrome (E.S.S.) sucks.
     

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