Howsit fella's. I just purchased a 82 toyota pickup.It has a 22r with 77000 original miles. I just swapped out the factory carburetor for a brand new 32/36 weber. Im also getting ready to install the shorty headers from LC engineering connected to a flowmaster super 44 series muffler. What i want to know is if anybody can recommend a good camshaft that i can drop in to this bone stock motor. Would appreciate the help. Thanks

 

Rather than wait for a skewed opiinion and results from people with probably really different setups..I would contact LC engineering...they are a better source for this type of info. If I bought a cam off someone elses opinion and it was too lopey or not correct for my driving style then Id be pissed, ever try to return a used cam?

 

Use lc torque cam it's a good small gain for u hawaiian

 

Outlaw cam!!!!!

lol jk
na, like Xs said, call LC. they will help u pick the right one for ur set up, for what u want/plan to do.

 

Desktop dyno numbers from Gnarly4X on Pirate.....
22RE – Stock, Doug Thorley header, opened exhaust (2” to 2.25”)
EB261C – Duration @ .050” = 222, Valve Lift .410”, 110d Lobe Center, Valve Lash = .008/.008
1200 RPM – 85.2 brake tq, 19.5 brake HP
1400 RPM – 93.7, 25.0
1600 RPM - 102, 31.2
1800 RPM - 109, 37.3
2000 RPM - 118, 44.9
2200 RPM – 129, 53.9
2400 RPM – 136, 61.9
2600 RPM - 142, 70.3
2800 RPM - 147, 78.3
3000 RPM - 150, 85.7
3200 RPM – 151 brake tq, 91.8 brake HP
3400 RPM – 150, 96.9
3600 RPM – 144, 98.9
3800 RPM - 140, 101
4000 RPM - 136, 104
4200 RPM – 132, 106
4400 RPM – 129, 108
4600 RPM - 127, 112
4800 RPM - 127, 116
5000 RPM - 125, 119
5200 RPM – 122, 121
5400 RPM – 117, 120
5600 RPM – 109, 116

22RE – Stock, Doug Thorley header, opened exhaust (2” to 2.25”)
EB268 D=218, Lift=.425”, LC=110, VL=8/8
1200 RPM – 88.8 brake tq, 20.3 brake HP
1400 RPM – 97, 25.9
1600 RPM - 106, 32.1
1800 RPM - 112, 38.3
2000 RPM - 121, 46.1
2200 RPM – 132, 55.2
2400 RPM – 139, 63.3
2600 RPM - 145, 71.6
2800 RPM - 149, 79.3
3000 RPM - 150, 85.9
3200 RPM – 150 brake tq, 91.4 brake HP
3400 RPM – 148, 96.1
3600 RPM – 143, 98.3
3800 RPM - 140, 101
4000 RPM - 136, 103
4200 RPM – 132, 106
4400 RPM – 129, 108
4600 RPM - 128, 112
4800 RPM - 128, 117
5000 RPM - 125, 119
5200 RPM – 120, 119
5400 RPM – 114, 118
5600 RPM – 107, 114

22RE – Stock, Doug Thorley header, opened exhaust (2” to 2.25”)
EB270 D=222, Lift=.430”, LC=110, VL=8/8
1200 RPM – 82.2 brake tq, 19.5 brake HP
1400 RPM – 93.5, 24.9
1600 RPM - 102, 31.1
1800 RPM - 109, 37.3
2000 RPM - 118, 44.8
2200 RPM – 129, 53.8
2400 RPM – 135, 61.9
2600 RPM - 142, 70.2
2800 RPM - 147, 78.2
3000 RPM - 150, 85.6
3200 RPM – 151 brake tq, 91.8 brake HP
3400 RPM – 150, 96.8
3600 RPM – 144, 99
3800 RPM - 141, 102
4000 RPM - 137, 104
4200 RPM – 133, 106
4400 RPM – 130, 109
4600 RPM - 128, 112
4800 RPM - 128, 117
5000 RPM - 126, 120
5200 RPM – 123, 122
5400 RPM – 118, 122
5600 RPM – 111, 118

22RE – Stock, Doug Thorley header, opened exhaust (2” to 2.25”)
Putney Machine 230-440 D=230, Lift=.440”, LC=110, VL=8/8
1200 RPM – 78.2 brake tq, 17.9 brake HP
1400 RPM – 87.1, 23.2
1600 RPM - 96, 29.3
1800 RPM - 104, 35.5
2000 RPM - 111, 42.7
2200 RPM – 123, 51.5
2400 RPM – 129, 59.1
2600 RPM - 136, 67.2
2800 RPM - 143, 76
3000 RPM - 147, 84.2
3200 RPM – 150 brake tq, 91.1 brake HP
3400 RPM – 150, 97
3600 RPM – 145, 99.7
3800 RPM - 141, 102
4000 RPM - 137, 105
4200 RPM – 133, 107
4400 RPM – 130, 109
4600 RPM - 127, 112
4800 RPM - 127, 116
5000 RPM - 126, 120
5200 RPM – 125, 124
5400 RPM – 122, 126
5600 RPM – 117, 125

22RE – Stock, Doug Thorley header, opened exhaust (2” to 2.25”)
Toyota Stock Cam D=210, Lift=Int .398”, Lift Exh=.385”, LC=110, VL=8/10
1200 RPM – 95.6 brake tq, 21.8 brake HP
1400 RPM – 103, 27.6
1600 RPM - 112, 34
1800 RPM - 117, 40.2
2000 RPM - 127, 48.3
2200 RPM – 137, 57.4
2400 RPM – 143, 65.5
2600 RPM - 148, 73
2800 RPM - 150, 79.7
3000 RPM - 150, 85.6
3200 RPM – 149 brake tq, 90.9 brake HP
3400 RPM – 146, 94.8
3600 RPM – 142, 97
3800 RPM - 138, 99.7
4000 RPM - 134, 102
4200 RPM – 131, 105
4400 RPM – 129, 108
4600 RPM - 128, 112
4800 RPM - 124, 113
5000 RPM - 118, 112
5200 RPM – 112, 111
5400 RPM – 106, 109
5600 RPM – 98.4, 105

CC252S (2002 catalog): LC=110, D=204/204, Lift=410/410, LS=110, VL=10/10
1200 RPM – 99.3 brake tq, 22.7 brake HP
1400 RPM – 107, 28.5
1600 RPM - 115, 34.9
1800 RPM - 120, 41.1
2000 RPM - 129, 49.1
2200 RPM – 139, 58.2
2400 RPM – 145, 66.2
2600 RPM - 149, 73.6
2800 RPM - 150, 79.7
3000 RPM - 149, 85.3
3200 RPM – 148 brake tq, 90.3 brake HP
3400 RPM – 146, 94.6
3600 RPM – 141, 96.5
3800 RPM - 137, 99.3
4000 RPM - 134, 102
4200 RPM – 131, 105
4400 RPM – 129, 108
4600 RPM - 129, 113
4800 RPM - 123, 112
5000 RPM - 116, 111
5200 RPM – 110, 109
5400 RPM – 104, 107
5600 RPM – 96.5, 103

22RE – Stock, DT header, opened exhaust
CC252S (new Catalog): LC=110, D=214/214, Lift=420/420, LS=110, VL=10/10
1200 RPM – 92.3 brake tq, 21.1 brake HP
1400 RPM – 100, 26.7
1600 RPM - 108, 33
1800 RPM - 114, 39.1
2000 RPM - 124, 47.2
2200 RPM – 135, 56.3
2400 RPM – 141, 64.6
2600 RPM - 147, 72.6
2800 RPM - 149, 79.7
3000 RPM - 150, 85.9
3200 RPM – 150 brake tq, 91.3 brake HP
3400 RPM – 147, 95.5
3600 RPM – 143, 97.9
3800 RPM - 139, 101
4000 RPM - 135, 103
4200 RPM – 132, 106
4400 RPM – 130, 109
4600 RPM - 129, 113
4800 RPM - 129, 117
5000 RPM - 123, 117
5200 RPM – 117, 116
5400 RPM – 111, 115
5600 RPM – 104, 111

PEAK TORQUE @ RPM RANKING
EB 261C: 3200 RPM – 151, peak tq, 91.8 HP - 5200 RPM – 122 tq, 121 peak HP
EB 270: 3200 RPM – 151, peak tq, 91.8 HP - 5200 RPM – 123 tq, 122 peak HP
Put440: 3400 RPM – 150, peak tq, 97.0 HP - 5400 RPM – 122 tq, 126 peak HP
EB 268: 3200 RPM – 150, peak tq, 91.4 HP - 5000 RPM – 125 tq, 119 peak HP
CC252S-210: 3200 RPM – 150, peak tq, 91.3 HP - 4800 RPM – 129 tq, 117 peak HP
Toyota Stock: 3000 RPM - 150, peak tq, 85.6 HP - 4800 RPM – 124 tq, 113 peak HP
CC252S-204: 2800 RPM - 150, peak tq, 79.7 HP - 4600 RPM – 129 tq, 113 peak HP


PEAK HP @ RPM RANKING
Put440: 3400 RPM – 150, peak tq, 97.0 HP - 5400 RPM – 122 tq, 126 peak HP
EB 270: 3200 RPM – 151, peak tq, 91.8 HP - 5200 RPM – 123 tq, 122 peak HP
EB 261C: 3200 RPM – 151, peak tq, 91.8 HP - 5200 RPM – 122 tq, 121 peak HP
EB 268: 3200 RPM – 150, peak tq, 91.4 HP - 5000 RPM – 125 tq, 119 peak HP
CC252S-new: 3200 RPM – 150, peak tq, 91.3 HP - 4800 RPM – 129 tq, 117 peak HP
CC252S-old: 2800 RPM - 150, peak tq, 79.7 HP - 4600 RPM – 129 tq, 113 peak HP
Toyota Stock: 3000 RPM - 150, peak tq, 85.6 HP - 4800 RPM – 124 tq, 113 peak HP

 

=confusing to someone asking for what cam to use.

 

Plus those are numbers for a RE, the OP said 22R

 

Xs55875:
It may be confusing but it's proper info. Besides, the OP can't expect someone to make his decision for him. He needs to educate himself and make the best decision for him. No better way to educate yourself than with accurate info.
There are other cams out there than LCE you know.

Jetas:
22R or 22RE makes no difference to the cam. The same cam is used in both engines. The numbers may be slightly higher with FI than with a carb.......but it's still good info for him to use to make his choice. Besides, you didn't offer him any help or info. You only chimed in to incorrectly "correct" me.

 

Just a thought: before buying a cam for a 22R head, why not get a 20R head first? 20R heads are supposed to flow better.

Unless the cams are interchangeable between the 20R and 22R heads, then it doesn't matter...

 

The same cams fit the 20R/22R/22RE & 22RET.
The 20R head will increase his compression ratio though.

 

I know nothing about Cams so i dont have anything to add. I was looking at this thread to hopefully learn something. But posting info that isnt going to give whats needed for the engine at hand is kinda useless and just as good as peoples opinion.

Dont mean to offend you, just my .02. Now lets get back on topic

 

No offense taken. I enjoy some good banter......but the info does go with his engine. The method of induction makes no difference to the cam.

 

if using a 22r Early engine with 22r hemi head -the 20r head will have same compression ratio. will need dome piston if not already equipped.
using a 22r late (laser block) -20r and 22r hemi head will decrease comp ratio

 

I would rock a small cam. Something like ted sells. 270/430. Something to give u a little more power and shift ur power band a little up since our trucks hit peak torque at a relatively low rpm. Roughly 3k most are at max torque.

 

A 20R head on a 22R pre-laser block raises static compression and will produce more power through the entire RPM range than any cam. (using domed pistons and adjustable cam gear) Oversized valves in a 20R, a port/polish, and nice header can almost double intake cfm. (note: even the "oversized" 20R valves are smaller than stock 22R valves) The 20R intake runners have a straighter shot so there's less restriction for the air charge to make it to the cylinder. Edit: the 20R intake ports are smaller so this increases velocity into the cylinder and increases low end tq)

Even with these mods, it's still never going to be a powerhouse.

 

.... not to poke at a dead horse, or get off topic but..... i was saying that because the hemi chamber of the 20r and early 22r heads are hemispherical- there is less compression, due to the larger combustion chamber. but the newer 22r/re head with the "pear" shaped chamber- has a higher compression, due to the smaller combustion chamber ......

correct?

now i understand of course, all this goes out the window once crank, rod, and/or pistons are changed.

 

Yes, that would be a correct statement BUT.....85 and later 22r/re heads (with pear shaped exhaust ports) will not work on the early blocks without swapping pistons.
The early blocks are roughly a 1/4" taller (.19") than the later blocks and the pistons stick up more above the top ring than they do on later blocks. This raised portion of the early pistons will contact the 85 & later heads when used on early blocks.
The early blocks used a 98 link timing chain due to the taller deck heigth where as the 85 and later blocks use a 96 link timing chain due to the shorter deck heigth. This poses another issue when trying to use later heads on early blocks.

 

All those cams gnarly listed are way small for a street truck.

From my research 20R heads have a slightly smaller cc volume (80cc vs 82cc) and the slight reduction in chamber bore size 89<92mn adds a little more squish as well.

 

I have a comp 280 (or maybe 282) in the hybrid and it's big time mild. Truck idles at 700 just a smidgin rough, seems to run out of steam around 6 thousand, but that could also be the induction.

 

I had a rv3 cam in my quite built 22r, a little more agressive then a stage 2.. it ran pretty hard til 6k and had a good idle..