6-speed?

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  1. 22r

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    ^^ unless the weldings were looking like bird doodoo. lol or the diff was hooked up to a 154390whp 22r and tried burning rubber on flat 52 inch boggers. :)
     
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    ok then yes...... ive seen them fail at those points. :D

    i doubt however that was the case with his tho.... :lol:
     
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    i did the same to my old 92 when i was doing a burnout. had 4.10s and 16" steelies. grabbed 2nd and it went byebye
     
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    LOL my truck has the auto and it doesnt do a burnout to start with.
     
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    so you have nothing to worry about :waytogo:



























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    u dont need to burn rubber anyways! all it does is ruin stuff, tires, gas, relationships with neighbors lol
     
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    i was shocked when it happened. my diff was locked for a while so i knew the spiders had welded together, but i didn't think this could happen
     
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    thats why i made sure mine was VERY well done when i had the spiders welded and braced it all down. given i whent overboard on how well it was welded but it will NEVER break....... other parts will bust before this diff ever does. :D
     
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    who's sway bar you have? should fit just fine...... i have a hellwig in the back of mine that came from a 7.5 but fits mine just fine....... comes squeaky close clearing the back of the diff but clears just enough.
     
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    so if Im running the 4spd rear with 3.07 gears and want to swap to a 5 spd what year of supra's am I looking for
     
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    i have a hellwig that i got off craigslist. it came off a second gen truck. fits like a glove. it rubs on my exhaust a little but thats because my pipe dumps out the back instead of the side

    the pickups came with a 5 speed. 84-95 with a 22r. i think the 20r has the same bellhousing but i'm not sure
     
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    yep. block is almost identical except for the bore.
     
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    yea I know the 84-88 came with 5spd's but I'm wanting the taller supra gears so I can make this truck a freeway flyer that gets some what decent milage

    :clapping::clapping::clapping::clapping:
     
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    well my 78 has a record of 31 on the highway. that tank i was doing about 75 on fairly flat freeway in cali. its got an intake, carb, ignition, exhaust, W50, 4.10s and 24.5" tires. the mileage has gone way up each time i mod the motor though. the carb helped a ton. the exhaust gave me a couple. ect ect.
     
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    i would regear the diff instead. way easier than swapping the tranny. you won't have to modify anything either
     
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    well if there is a supra tranny thats got taller gears then that of the 5spd truck trans and its a bolt in app and I'm swaping to a 5spd wouldn,t the supra tranny be the way to go instead of doing a ring gear change
     
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    i dont think the bellhousing matches up. not sure though
     
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    if the spline count is the same jus use the 22r bellhousing and put it on the 20r trans case, im pretty sure thats the same.
     
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    20/22R have the same bellhousing to block pattern. but, not all the trannys had the same bellhousing to trans pattern. the older W50 wont fit the 55/56/58. the W58 from supras and 81-85ish celicas did have a taller 5th gear than the truck 5 speeds did though. here...check this out.

    W40
    4-speed transmission offered in base model vehicles.
    Ratios:
    * First Gear: 3.287:1
    * Second Gear: 2.043:1
    * Third Gear: 1.394:1
    * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    * Reverse: -4.091:1
    Applications:
    * 1971-1975ish Toyota Celica

    W50
    Often called the "steel-case" transmission for its steel shell, in contrast to the later W-series transmissions' aluminum case.
    Ratios:
    * First Gear: 3.287:1
    * Second Gear: 2.043:1
    * Third Gear: 1.394:1
    * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    * Fifth Gear: 0.853:1
    * Reverse: -4.039:1

    W55
    This was the first of the aluminum-shelled W-series transmissions.
    The W55 appears to be a base reference point for gear ratios that Toyota used to fine tune later models of the W-series.
    Ratios:
    * First Gear: 3.566:1
    * Second Gear: 2.056:1
    * Third Gear: 1.384:1
    * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    * Fifth Gear: 0.85:1
    * Reverse: -4.091:1
    Applications:
    * 1982-1983 Toyota Carina
    * 1981-1985 Toyota Celica
    * 1983 Toyota Corona
    * 1986 Toyota Soarer
    * 1986 Toyota Crown
    * 1983 Toyota Chaser
    * 1984-1988 Toyota Pickup 2WD with 22RE(EFI) engine
    * 2002-2005 Lexus IS300 (US Market only)

    W56
    A common truck transmission that came in 2-wheel and 4-wheel drive varieties.
    Its ratios differ in comparison to the base W55 in the 1st and 2nd gears only; this is to allow a slightly heavier vehicle (truck) to get up to speed slightly quicker than if geared like a car.
    This was most likely accomplished by taking the W55 base gears and changing the 1st and 2nd gear sets, as the rest of the transmission remains unchanged.
    Ratios:
    * First Gear: 3.954:1
    * Second Gear: 2.141:1
    * Third Gear: 1.384:1
    * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    * Fifth Gear: 0.85:1
    * Reverse: -4.091:1
    Applications:
    * Toyota Hilux
    * Toyota 4Runner

    W58
    It differs from the W57 in its fifth-gear ratio. This transmission is popular as a replacement for weak stock transmissions in other vehicles. It came in two varieties: the original found in the 1982-1989 non-turbo Supras, Celicas and Cressidas of the early 1980s; and the later version found in Mk3, Mk 4 Supras and Lexus SC 300s.

    The W58 & W57 share the highest gearing and closest ratios (1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th (direct)) of the stock W-Series transmissions.

    Toyota engineers have shown favor to the W58 over the rest of the 'W' series by including it in so many models and even building a stronger version for higher powered applications.
    Ratios:
    * First Gear: 3.285:1
    * Second Gear: 1.894:1
    * Third Gear: 1.275:1
    * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    * Fifth Gear: 0.783:1
    * Reverse: -3.768:1
    Applications:
    * 1982-1986 Toyota MK 2 Celica Supra
    * 1986-1992 Toyota MK 3 non-turbo Supra
    * 1993-1998 Toyota MK 4 non-turbo Supra
    * 1986 Toyota Cressida
    * 1986 Toyota Soarer
    * 1982-1992 Lotus Excel
    * 1992-1997 Lexus SC300
    * 1998-2005 Lexus IS300 5 speed

    W59
    A common truck transmission, this was the successor to the W56. Like the W56, it came in both 2-wheel and 4-wheel drive versions.
    Ratios:
    * First Gear: 3.954:1
    * Second Gear: 2.141:1
    * Third Gear: 1.275:1
    * Fourth Gear: 1.00:1
    * Fifth Gear: 0.85:1
    Applications:
    * Toyota Tacoma

    thats some trimmed down info from wikipedia. heres the link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_W_transmission
     

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