4wd caliper conversion brackets for 2wd

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  1. MTB68TOY

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    Thanks to the help of one of the guys on here (liteon) I am about to have some caliper stands made so you can use 4piston toyota 86-95 4wd calipers on a 84-95 2wd toyota with 12.1 inch wilwood rotors...

    I am wondering if any of you guys are interested in a pair... it would be a $25 deposit to order and will take about a month to get them. total cost will be around a $100 and the more that I order the better the price....
    email me about them at jc4mtb@aol.com

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    Hey, let's price out the whole project. I'll get to work on that, unless you still have your pricing info...
     
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    Jegs had a sale on the hats... about $47 each I ended getting the rotors from them too... but it was a price match from another site about $78 each
    My calipers were a steal off ebay, they were listed as t100 which is the same and with no core charge that saved a lot... I got them shipped for $62 but with a core charge elsewhere is about $200+
     
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    damn mtb68toy ... that was a steal.

    i'm in! so let me get this straight...this includes the rotors and the brackets for $100.00? all i would need is the caliper? i have access to rayebestos reman. calipers for cheap.

    where do i pay?
     
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    i sent you an email regarding this. I would like to get in on the project.
     
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    no rotors with this deal you can buy them yourself...

    just the caliper stands/adapters...

    email me for payment info
     
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    Ok, here we go, before and after pics. Different sides though.....
    Also some during pics....
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    I should also mention that for a bit more money, you can get the same rotors in drilled and slotted.:eek:
     
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    is that your car liteon?

    i wonder how drastic the change feel
     
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    Yes, the difference is amazing. Well, I went from a single piston caliper on a 10" rotor to a 4 piston on a 12.1" rotor. More pressure from surface area and more leverage. It went from not being able to lock up the front tires in the rain to locking them up on dry pavement. Not that I want to do that, but now I can.....

    And make sure that your passenger is ready for the panic stop, or you might need to replace the windshield.
     
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    Or they can wear a seat belt lol. My truck locks up all 4 wheels on dry pavement which is not good thing but I'll probally get a set of these once I do my engine swap along with rear disc brakes.
     
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    about how much did it cost u to change from 2wd to 4 wd disc???
     
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    Update

    So just a few facts...

    The swap uses Wilwood rotors and hats
    this is a link to the hats:
    http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/itemproduct_10001_10003_191548_-1_763618_30155

    here are the rotors:
    http://store.summitracing.com/partd...IL-160-5844&N=700+4294859634+115&autoview=sku

    these rotors can also be used (they are drilled and listed for race use but are cheaper):
    http://store.summitracing.com/partd...4294922533+400196+4294859634+115&autoview=sku

    You will have to get 5/16-18 allen head bolts

    Calipers are from an 86-95 4wd pickup or 4runner
    these are best if you can find them on ebay as otherwise you will have the added cost of a core charge...

    I am attaching a pic of my latest design revision for the caliper stand/adapter. It will be made of stainless steel and the holes will be threaded for 12mm 1.25 pitch bolts (stock size) so no muts will be needed. The design is made to be 12mm thick.

    MTB:D
     

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    If you need those in AutoCAD let me know and I will draw em up for ya.
     
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    Thanks for the offer yoter!

    The current plan is to have them made by emachine

    http://www.emachineshop.com/

    That is how the current design is made, I don't know of a shop to use or a way to get them made otherwise....
     
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    Heys guys, these rotors will not work. The mounting holes are a slightly smaller diameter than the hat that will fit over the hub of the pickup.

    There are others that are drilled and slotted, they are more expensive though.


    If you do get drilled and slotted rotors, Make sure that you get both passenger and driver side rotors. They are directional!

    Also a few notes:
    1.The rotors listed above by MTB68TOY are the ones I use. They are cast iron and do rust. No big deal, just be prepared to clean the wheels on a regular basis (you should anyway.:rolleyes: ).

    2. Get grade 8 cap screws for mounting the rotors. Some grade 8's are not coated and rust. It should cost about $15 or so for the bolts and lock washers. Wilwood wants $80. If you get non coated bolts, you will have to paint them.
     
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    Thanks for the clarification on the rotors Litneon...
    Just as a side note I used stainless Allen head bolts for mine, definitely no rust... LOL!
    I got my bolts from a local swap meet for about 5 bucks... make sure they are 5/16 -18
    you may have to run a tap through the threads in the rotors, I had to as my bolts were binding in the threads
     
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    Just let me know! Starting thurday school is out for the summer so I'll have more free time, finally. Just 2 more finals to go!
     
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    More thanks to Litneon...
    seems normal stainless steel doesn't have the strength required for the rotors so you would need to use grade 8 hardware like Litneon mentions or I have found some high strength stainless out there that should work too...
     
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    Ordering today

    Well I have finished the design and will be ordering them today...
    Unfortunately only one of you has gotten in on this, but I have decided to order a few sets anyway (ordering only two increases the price way too high).
    So I will have a set or two extra if anyone still has interest.
    It will be about a month before they come in.
    I will post again when they are here and probably have pics of my install.

    They will not be in stainless do to it's lack of tensile strength...
    I will also be including the socket head bolts and lock washers needed to bolt the wilwood hats and rotors together. I got a great deal on them and they are ridiculously priced from anywhere as rotor bolts.... they are grade 8 zinc plated.

    See the attached pic of the final design....

    MTB
     

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